Posted on 02/21/2012 9:29:33 AM PST by VU4G10
While most voters continue to strongly support border control to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country, they also remain concerned that legal citizens will be caught up inadvertently in these efforts.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters are at least somewhat concerned that efforts to identify and deport illegal immigrants will also end up violating the civil rights of some U.S. citizens.
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The DOJ and Homeland inSecurity seems to relish in every excuse to abuse American citizens once it gets the power in the name of getting the bad foreigners.
Rinos don’t object that Homeland inSecurity is sexually molesting Americans at the airports in the name of power they got to seek out mulsim terrorists. They did not object to Christians and conservatives being made the MO of a domestic terrorist. They relish the corruption of political correctness.
I can imagine what the corrupt race baiting feds will do with a new found power to stop Americans (espeically whitey to make things quota equal) to “check their papers.” They will be locking up Americans until they can hire a lawyer and prove to a judge they have valid papers and really are Americans.
Some of the elderly Americans don’t even have birth documents. The Feds will have a heyday strip searching and locking them up with drug gang dealers. Our Federal government is a collection of traitors.
And, actually, the entire question is bogus and just one more something concocted to create confusion around the illegal alien issue. We all run the risk of being questioned, or even becoming a suspect in some crime or other disallowed act we know nothing about. It's just part of being alive and functioning in society.
I know, there are people on here that would like to round up 240,000 buses and an army of police officers to try. They are in my opinion delusional and reactionary. Even if that plan were workable logistically - and it is not - it will never happen.
The biggest reason such a plan is mindless folly is that the GOP would never allow such a plan to be put in place.
I do agree with eliminating incentives that draw people to live in this country illegally. So I don't get totally flamed, I agree with that position entirely. But most of all, we must control the border so the problem does not keep getting worse.
We are screwed! First these boneheads vote in the kenyan turd, now this! It seems it’s always opposites day in America!
So suttle how they sneak this in. Why wasn't it stated undocumented instead of illegal to carry thur the theme.
I was once arrested and spent the better part of a day in jail for non payment of child support I didn’t owe. (I don’t have kids) It was an inconvenience but I sure didn’t see it as a civil rights violation. It was a courthouse screw up and easily dealt with.
Another time I had a cop pull a gun on me. The cop even had me on the ground in handcuffs before I could prove it was a case of mistaken identity. The cop got my ID and showed me that I was a dead ringer for a murder suspect. My friends and I all got a laugh out of that one. No harm, no foul.
That's the difference between individual decision-making and collective choices forced on everyone else. For me, the "danger" of being deprived of my rights is far outweighed by the permanent price paid for the "feel good" benefit of the proponents, the overwhelming percentage of whom are immune or shielded from the consequences.
You are right of course. And it's such a simple effortless thing.
I am guilty of that very lapse. In the future I will only refer to them as illegal residents.
Thank you for the rhetorical push. Words have always meant things; abuse of words serve the propaganda monster and confound adult debate.
I agree with your take on all this.
It’s even gotten to the point that the political leadership and courts in the United States don’t even give a damn if our president is qualified to hold his office.
All evidence concerning his actions, points to him not having the best interests of our nation at heart, but the obvious question why that is, is never asked.
I am presently struggling through a small tome titled Flaws and Fallacies in Statistical Thinking. Although somewhat dated, the principles are eternal.
Your statement is a perfect reply to the Black or White Fallacy.
Our government barrage of propaganda is replete with them; as are most "polls."
“...because I saw it happen to Cheech Marin in a movie in the 80’s”
Wow, a CIC who actually understands how unique America is and actually wants to preserve it! Haven’t had one of those Presidents since the 1980’s (Reagan of course).
How far we’ve fallen.
Waassappining
I assume you read the following thread :
Judge Napolitano Getting Fired Rant Feb 16, 2012
The solution has been complicated almost beyond understanding. The rule of law continues to redefined beyond comprehension. The result is that everything, between chaos and totalitarianism is now an option.
When elected representatives ignore the constitution with impunity for generations, what options remain?
Citizenship and the rights of citizens. What a quaint, charming piece of nostalgia.
LOL, it is all in how you ask the question. Ask them if they support illegals stealing their kids futures.
Solid majority concerned about preserving civil rights of law abiding American citizens.
Same poll:
“61% Favor Immigration Checks On Traffic Stops
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Most voters continue to support immigration status checks on routine traffic stops and favor strict sanctions on employers who give illegal immigrants jobs.”
This is more interesting:
“33% Say Race Relations in America Getting Better, 32% Worse”
(My note) And the remaining 35% say they will continue to support our race-baiter in chief, his race-baiting attorney general and his race-baiting supporters in Congress, the MSM, both coasts and society in general.
So don’t deport citizens. Problem solved.
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