National Instruments Denies Relationship with Rossi

New Energy Times ^ | 2/18/2012 | Steven B. Krivit

[Johnny B.]

Today, an author who is working on a book about Rossi contacted Julia Betts, the corporate communications and investor relations manager for National Instruments, to inquire about its relationship with Rossi.

According to e-mails the author received from Betts, National Instruments is not working with Rossi.

“Leonardo Corporation/Andrea Rossi is currently not a customer, partner or distributor of National Instruments,” Betts wrote.

The author sent Betts another e-mail asking about a variety of possible relationships her company might have with Rossi or his company.

“Per our previous [news release] from November,” Betts wrote, “we were only in discussions with the Leonardo Corporation regarding the use of National Instruments’ engineering tools. Currently, Leonardo Corporation/Andrea Rossi is not a customer of National Instruments.”

[PapaBear3625]

A paragraph break somewhere in there would have been nice. Preview is our friend... 8-)

[Johnny B.]

The nice thing about this particular story is it's simplicity.

Krivit specifies a specific NI representative making a specific statement. It will be quick and easy to prove or disprove. And, I strongly suspect that NI will have to issue a press release to either confirm or deny this story.

I've already checked, and there really is a Julia Betts, who is the corporate communications and investor relations manager for National Instruments.

Meanwhile, Rossi has used a "secret NATO Colonel" and bogus agreements with the University of Bologna to try to enhance his credibility.

And, regarding your claim that you're only a supporter of LENR, not of Rossi, I would point to the approximate 100 times you've posted your silly little screed with the long list of "unlikely" things Rossi would have to do if he were a fraud, along with noting that most of those things have already been proven.

[TXnMA]

Nice tapdance away from the issue at hand...

Now, to get on subject, what is your take on the National Instruments statement -- versus Rossi's claims on the same subject?

Nothing theoretical involved; just a minor issue of veracity...

Your turn...

[Johnny B.]

Now, to get on subject, what is your take on the National Instruments statement -- versus Rossi's claims on the same subject?

You mean the statement that Rossi was talking to them about buying some of their equipment, just as thousands of others have done? That statement?

I'm sure that Rossi talked to them about doing business, specifically because he wanted some statement that would allow him to borrow some credibility from a legitimate company, just as he did with the University of Bologna.

And, just as he did with the University of Bologna, he took a preliminary, unfulfilled discussion, and claimed that it was proof of a close, deeply involved working relationship that never existed.

[Johnny B.]

I guess your post was aimed primarily at Kevmo, so I'm sorry if I replied out of turn. However, it's worth pointing out that Rossi is demonstrating that Rossi uses this tactic repeatedly to try to "borrow" credibility from legitimate organizations.

In fact, it appears he did exactly the same thing with the University of New Hampshire when he was trying to sell the Army his non-functional "thermoelectric converter" more than a decade ago.

[fremont_steve]

Summary for all the back in forth.

Rossi is a fraud - D’uh.

NI didn’t have anything to do with him according to NI. - D’uh.

Can we now move on and ignore Rossi and Cold Fusion.

[Erasmus]

I am somewhat surprised that they’re not a customer of Nat Inst. Nat Inst makes instrumentation for just about everything, and it’s used by just about everyone (including yers truly).

I used to work a block up the street from them. By the big “rusty bridge.”

[Johnny B.]

I am somewhat surprised that they’re not a customer of Nat Inst. Nat Inst makes instrumentation for just about everything, and it’s used by just about everyone (including yers truly).

That's because you don't need any of the instrumentation from National Instruments to run an investment fraud.

[Johnny B.]

That's because you don't need any of the instrumentation from National Instruments to run an investment fraud.

Sorry! I meant: "That's because Rossi doesn't need any of the instrumentation from National Instruments to run an investment fraud.

Hope my meaning was clear in spite of my typo!

[Johnny B.]

Rossi has responded HERE:

Dear Lu Fong:
I have received many comments with the same questions regarding National Instruments, so I answer to you and the answers are valid also for the other Readers who have put the same questions.
We have worked very well with N.I., and we have learnt from them very much. We are very grateful to them for all what they have teached to us, training our technological people in a very useful way, for weeks.
As I said already, Leonardo Corporation is structurally changed in these last weeks, and the Trust to which now Leonardo Corporation belongs has chosen other suppliers. Also our Customer has chosen other suppliers. We will remain always grateful to NI for what they teached to our people and we will ask in future proposals also to them . Personally, I am convinced that sooner or later we will buy also their systems.
Said this, I want answer in the detail to your questions:
1- Our scheduling, obviously, will not be affected, the suppliers we have chosen are already respecting all the scheduled milestones.
2- 3- Yes, we have already the control systems set up in the 1 MW plant, which will be delivered to the Customer very soon. By the way, such systems have been chosen directly from the Customer, who preferred a supplier he was already working with.
I want to add that we have chosen other Customers not because better, but only because of their longstanding collaboration with our Partners and Customer. I personally think that NI is a very good company and, again, we will maintain them in our list of Suppliers, honoured of this.
The 1 MW plant is a magnificence, and the preparation of the robotized line to produce the E-Cats is in schedule to start the production within Autumn and the deliveries within the next Winter, with some luck; in the worst case, within 18 months we will deliver, and we will deliver at the prices we promised. The technology has been revolutionized, we are testing the new E-Cats and we are very satisfied. This very week we will start to use the new control system made by the new Supplier.
Let me do a last consideration: the fact that snakes and clowns have used this episode to create a mess is the demonstration that we have not to release the names of our Partner, Suppliers and Customers, to avoid the falsifications that the puppet snakes and the clowns make up and, over all, the disturbments that they bring up to all the entities working with us. We all need to work in peace. We have to work in our factories 16 hours per day (also today, Sunday) and we have not time at all to compete in the field of the chatters of snakes who are PAID by their puppeteers to try to create a mess from nothing.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

[Johnny B.]

And Krivit has now posted the entire email HERE:

Subject: Re: Need info please – Please just one more question.
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:05:42 -0600
From: Julia Betts
To: [Mystery Author]

Per our previous statement from November, we were only in discussions with the Leonardo Corporation regarding the use of National Instruments engineering tools. Currently Leonardo Corporation/Andrea Rossi is not a customer of National Instruments.

NI platforms can be used for Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) applications, particularly the National Instruments Reconfigurable I/O (RIO) platform that is based on FPGA (field programmable gate array) technology for the control and monitoring needs. The FPGAs are programmable integrated circuits that offer true parallelism, high-speed analysis of data and a high level of reliability needed for control and monitoring applications.

We do think the field of LENR is a very intriguing research area that has potential to impact the energy crisis that is facing the world. NI believes in providing the right tools and platforms to enable engineers and scientists to focus on innovation and solving the grand engineering challenges such as energy from fusion, cancer therapy in the field of medicine and smart grids for better urban infrastructure, to name a few. We are working with Universities and Research Centers around the world to empower researchers and scientists who are working on magnetic confined fusion, inertial confined fusion and Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (some times called “cold fusion”)

Hope this clarifies.

Julia Betts – Corporate Communications and Investor Relations Manager – National Instruments – 512-659-9643 (mobile)

[Johnny B.]

So, when evidence that Rossi has been lying about his involvement with National Instruments appears, he suddenly changes his story to one where National Instruments was involved, but his "secret" customer (I notice he's only talking about a single customer) sent them away.

Meanwhile, the NI rep says "we were only in discussions with Rossi" and that Rossi is "currently not a customer". There is some room for interpretation there, but I suspect if Rossi ever had been a customer, she would have mentioned it. I suspect her use of the word "currently" is there because she wouldn't rule out future dealings, not that he once was a customer.

I strongly suspect that if Rossi lied about NI's involvement while he was selling "franchises", that that would be enough all by itself to put him in prison. I've read numerous statements from Rossi supporters that the association with National Instruments was the primary reason they believed that it wasn't a scam.

[Johnny B.]

Rossi also makes some bizarre comments about this situation. He says:

the fact that snakes and clowns have used this episode to create a mess is the demonstration that we have not to release the names of our Partner, Suppliers and Customers, to avoid the falsifications that the puppet snakes and the clowns make up and, over all, the disturbments that they bring up to all the entities working with us.

But in fact, if he were more open, there wouldn't be room for "the snakes" to "falsify" anything. Of course, keeping everything secret makes it easy for Rossi to falsify things (like his relationship with NI).

He also says:

We have to work in our factories 16 hours per day (also today, Sunday) and we have not time at all to compete in the field of the chatters of snakes who are PAID by their puppeteers to try to create a mess from nothing.

I would love to see any evidence he has that people are being paid to create trouble for him (by producing evidence of his lies, I guess).

[Erasmus]

It was fine the way you wrote it.

"You" can mean "a person" if read properly in context.

In fact it is literally true that if I, personally, wanted to do some scentific fraud, I wouldn't, as you say, need the instrumentation from NI (unless, of course, it would contribute the the sex appeal of the demo).

[Johnny B.]

I meant “One doesn’t”, but I always thought that sounded pretentious, so I substituted “You don’t” without thinking you might reasonably take it as addressed specifically to you. :-)

[Kevmo]

I’ve said what I have to say on this seagull thread.

I’m a LENR fan, not necessarily a Rossi fan.

[dinodino]

Where exactly are these “factories” to which Rossi refers? Are they all located in his fifth-floor apartment in Miami?

[Mycroft Holmes]

I meant “One doesn’t”, but I always thought that sounded pretentious, so I substituted “You don’t”

And that is what "one" is for. A lack in standard English that is addressed by the Southern "y'all" is another, more specific pronoun that needs greater currency.

[Johnny B.]

I’m a LENR fan, not necessarily a Rossi fan.

Ha ha! That's a good one!

You've posted your silly little "Unfortunately, if Rossi" defense at least 100 times here on Free Republic, so you certainly are a Rossi fan.

I guess you have to back off now that it's become obvious even to you that Rossi is a fraud.

Time for you to become a devoted follower of the next free-energy scam.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Cold Fusion, the scam that refuses to die."

Perhaps the reason "Cold Fusion" (more accurately LANR...Lattice Assisted Nuclear Reactions) "refuses to die" is that it is NOT "a scam". ROSSI may indeed turn out to be a scamster, but there is plenty of peer-reviewed evidence that LANR is quite real.

"IF" Rossi's efforts turn out to "be a scam" it will be the FIRST such scam perpetrated by advocates of LANR. The single PROVEN case of fraud was done by some "unknown" party at MIT on the first replication of Pons/Fleischmann done there. "Someone" CHANGED THE DATA in the publication to indicate that LANR had not worked, when in fact, the data in the databooks showed precisely what Pons/Fleischmann had found. That fraud was discovered and thoroughly investigated by Eugene Mallove...who resigned his position at MIT because of it.

Retrospective analysis of data from several other efforts by physicists "disproving" LANR have been found to have simply been badly done....i.e. they didn't run their apparatus long enough to get sufficient D2 loading to "trigger" the LANR effect.