[Sacajaweau]

Here is Upstate New York, our utility bills are out of site. I believe the majority of us heat and cook and run our clothes dryers with gas.

But NYS has said "No Fracking" and without good reason.

The way I figure it, by the time NYS gets around to saying yes, the method will be so over regulated AND TAXED, that the consumers won't save a dime. What's new??

What's the real reason???....basic political arrogance"....just like Obama and his green or bust policies.

[woodbutcher1963]

“Here is Upstate New York, our utility bills are out of site”

I just paid my heating oil bill to fill my tank in southern NH. It was $583. We pay PSNH $.155/killowatt for electricity.

Western NY(my mom still lives in near Buffalo)has some of the cheapest electricity and natural gas in the northeast.

[Vigilanteman]

Here is Upstate New York, our utility bills are out of site.

Here in Western Pennsylvania, we are seeing an increasing number of cars and trucks with New York plates filling our hotel rooms near work sites.

What kind of people are you sending here?

[USS Alaska]

Here is Upstate New York, our utility bills are out of site. I believe the majority of us heat and cook and run our clothes dryers with gas.

In W PA, four years ago natural gas was $ 15/MCF {thousand cubic feet} and since the frackers have been developing thousands of new wells, the rate is $4.35/MCF.

Our unemployment rate {excluding Pittsburgh and Philadelphia} is down to 6% with those two cities it's 7.4%.

Our electricity rates are up because the local power company has been forced to close six coal fired power plants.

The green weenies are trying their best to shut down the natural gas production, but too many people realize the benefits and so it's just the real crazies screaming and shouting about global warming, dirty water, dirty air and acid rain.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

Our pellet stove is saving us a ton of money here in MA. It paid for itself in 2 years. You have to get a good one, like Harmony or Quadra-fire.

Negatives are minimal. Carrying 40 lb. bags, 1/2 hour/week maintenance, Exhaust pipe (chimney) cleaning 2-3 times/season, new $70 glow plug/season.

To avoid chimney cleaning, we side-vented, then you can clean the pipe with a long dryer brush in a couple of minutes.

Pros: Cheap heat. And we leave the thermostat at 75!

[BfloGuy]

But NYS has said "No Fracking" and without good reason.

You should still begin to see some relief in your gas prices as NFG, RE&G, NYSEG, etc. buy their gas on the open market (that doesn't mean I'm content with New York's no-fracking stance.) In the rural areas, most of us heat with fuel oil and that's up 60¢/gallon over last year. The only thing saving us this year has been the unusually mild weather.

By next year this time, I hope zero's out of the WH and oil prices are headed down.

[Gritty]

Environmentalists are sowing confusion on the subject at all levels. They prefer no action to employment and cheaper gas.

These upstate counties and small towns are economically dying and all the usual suspects want to do is spread hysteria to "protect the environment". These are the same people who economically destroyed the once world-class leather industry in this region in the name of a "cleaner" environment.

Hydrofracking concerns rise to the surface locally