Posted on 02/15/2012 1:10:19 PM PST by FewsOrange
Pediatricians fed up with parents who refuse to vaccinate their children out of concern it can cause autism or other problems increasingly are "firing" such families from their practices, raising questions about a doctor's responsibility to these patients.
Medical associations don't recommend such patient bans, but the practice appears to be growing, according to vaccine researchers.
In a study of Connecticut pediatricians published last year, some 30% of 133 doctors said they had asked a family to leave their practice for vaccine refusal, and a recent survey of 909 Midwestern pediatricians found that 21% reported discharging families for the same reason.
By comparison, in 2001 and 2006 about 6% of physicians said they "routinely" stopped working with families ...
Most pediatricians consider preventing disease through vaccines a primary goal of their job. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and AAP issue an annual recommended vaccination schedule, but some parents ask if their child's immunizations can be pushed back or skipped altogether, pediatricians say. While rates for several key inoculations in young children rose between 2009 and 2010, according to the CDC, lower immunization rates have been blamed as a factor in U.S. outbreaks of whooping cough and measles in recent years.
Parents often voice concerns about autism or that their child's immune system may be overwhelmed by too many vaccines at once. Worries about a link between vaccines and autism arose because some parents noticed their children regressed, or lost some skills, around the time of their vaccinations at two years of age. Another concern centered on the former use of mercury as a vaccine preservative.
Numerous studies since have dispelled these concerns among scientists. Rather, scientists say, it is more likely that autism symptoms begin showing up around the same age children are vaccinated.
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
As are 'babies' in the local Wal-Mart. Do you for one minute believe the illegal invasion has been vaccinated? Priorities priorities priorities.... About 4 years ago for the first time in my life, a MD asked me if I had been exposed to TB. I asked how would I know? He got tongue tied, and then asked IF I had been to a foreign country, OR been in contact with 'foreigners'. I went hmmmmm NOT to my knowledge but I have been to Wal-Mart. See on my medical history form I put n/a, so this required follow up questions.
“The anti-vaccine people are a cult, just like global warmist.”
I agree, but the problem with the anti-vaccine people is that if you don’t slap them down hard, folks may listen to them.
They have the real potential to hurt innocent people that might listen to them. They do not care. They think “herd immunity” means they can be bad parents.
It’s true.
Osama Bin Laden and you are right. Vaccines are a dirty Jew plot to drain your bodily fluids.
so what kind of relationship is there between the doc and a patient that basically said nope. You have to fire them.
After a severe reaction to a pertussis vaccine by our first daughter, our pediatrician told us that not to give that vaccine to any other of our children.
For a number of years, every case of polio in the US was directly or indirectly caused by the live vaccine. There was a safe alternative available yet the doctors and drug companies continued giving the live version. They sure can be trusted with your children.
“I blame Dr. Jonas Salk, in particular. He was a dirty Jew, you know.”
That one’s rich, really. How did you manage to interpret my comments as anti-semitic?
Anti Vaccine people are a Cult like Global Warmists?
Would those jew haters you’re upset about also include the people at Merck who make the Gardasil? You know, those people who hate Dr Salk because all 13 separate lots of the Gardasil tested contained recombinant HPV DNA which is not supposed to be in Gardasil?
I don’t seem to remember any jew bashing going on on that cafepharma thread, just people who Make the stuff claiming they wouldn’t give it to their own children.
“I agree, but the problem with the anti-vaccine people is that if you don’t slap them down hard, folks may listen to them.”
Well, if we’re lucky, their kids will get German measles or mumps, become sterile, and they’ll drop out of the gene pool.
No, I’m just mocking you because you’re an idiot.
I find professionals that have the notion of firing customers/clients/patrons to be quaint. It is as if they have no control in their lives and have to adopt the obamaeque delusion of word twisting.
Just say you refused them as a customer/client/patient/patron it is much less taxing on the conscience.
Doctors don’t have a problem with clients who smoke/overeat/underexcercise/don’t flu vaccinate.
* the sheer aggressiveness of piggybacked vaccines
... I agree and think that is the worst, most dangerous example. I started to look differently at Dr.s when my toddler daughter was in the Emerg Room for a febral seizure and the Docs wanted to give her a Spinal Tap ... just to rule out menengitis (or cover their butts for legal). My wife and I said over my dead body and checked her out post haste.
It’s a different world out there and no longer the days of Dr. Welby...
ymmv
How about rabies vaccine? Get rabies and take it, you live. Don't take it, you die. Then there's tetanus. How many cases of that have you heard about lately?
Obviously vaccines as active agents will have a certain risk, tiny but greater than zero. So much is true for any medicine or treatment whatsover. If you want to avoid 100% of that risk fine, just give up on all of medicine whatsoever, and good luck to you.
It's fine to bloviate opinions from the fringe but I worry some fairly naive person may read your rants, not have the background to see it for what it is, and maybe make a very bad decision as a result. Maybe that possibility doesn't bother you though.
The child that was irrecoverably 'harmed' is NOT my child. I did know the child prior to the vaccination and I personally saw what is now labeled 'autism' by some medical agency took place.
I also know that a parent must give the consent for their child to be vaccinated and there is within the consent 'possible' reactions to the vaccine.
I have NO clue IF the vaccine is 'responsible', but I sure witnessed enough on my own that the 'parenting' is NOT responsible. I know something happened.
By allowing children, whose parents refuse to have them vaccinated, access to his/her office, a physician would violate medical ethics and risk possible legal jeopardy for allowing other patients to be exposed to an unnecessary risk.
I assume that these other patients are vaccinated. Don’t you trust their immunity? Are you aware that recently vaccinated children can be carriers of the disease they were vaccinated against.
Seems the doctor is displaying more of a global warming scientist mentality, not the parents.
Experts telling you what’s best and mocking you if you don’t hold their view.
Sounds like you’re there too, comparing them to a cult.
Why are you unhappy there are some people who make medical decisions different from what you believe? Nobody gives a sh1t about their own health or their kids more than they do. If you get screwed up permanently you have to live in that body. If your kid’s screwed up permanently you have to take care of that kid for the rest of your life with huge medical bills. The doctor or the pharma company doesn’t give two sh1ts about that. You have to be your best advocate in terms of safety, at all times.
Many of these vaccines also would qualify as being exposed to an unnecessary risk.
Slap all you need. I personally know one young man that neither of you will have to be worrying about infecting your gene pools... He was vaccinated and it is doubtful he will ever have children. Personally with or without vaccinations I suspect both your gene pools.
The way they mock and deride most people who ask them to defend the status quo is shameful.
It’s also typical behaviour for herd type people that don’t want to think for themselves.
“....that what was once my choice and between me and my doctor, becomes a forced program where the government controls what goes into your body, the last truely “private” property.”
THis is actually the only valid argument against vaccinations - freedom of choice in a free country. Of course nobody makes this argument in practice because it’s insane.
The vaccine opponents choose to say “vaccines are bad” or “I won’t poison my kids” or some other such ridiculous argument - where they create huge risks for their kids and other peoples kids.
I absolutely agree that it should be voluntary, but the stupidity of not getting your kids vaccinated cannot be overstated, in my opinion.
how hard it it to order a dead virus vaccine?
and
how hard it is to order non multiple disease vaccinations?
“I know something happened. “
Can you narrow it down a bit, or is it just easier to blame vaccines?
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