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US weighing steep nuclear arms cuts
Associated Press ^ | 14 Feb 2012 | ROBERT BURNS

Posted on 02/14/2012 4:08:40 PM PST by rarestia

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Obama administration is weighing options for sharp new cuts to the U.S. nuclear force, including a reduction of up to 80 percent in the number of deployed weapons, The Associated Press has learned.

Even the most modest option now under consideration would be an historic and politically bold disarmament step in a presidential election year, although the plan is in line with President Barack Obama's 2009 pledge to pursue the elimination of nuclear weapons.

No final decision has been made, but the administration is considering at least three options for lower total numbers of deployed strategic nuclear weapons cutting to: 1,000 to 1,100; 700 to 800, and 300 to 400, according to a former government official and a congressional staffer. Both spoke on condition of anonymity in order to reveal internal administration deliberations.

The potential cuts would be from a current treaty limit of 1,550 deployed strategic warheads.

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To: rarestia

Treason. He is deliberately dismantling US superiority in every category, nukes, space, and conventional. If he wins re-election we are done folks. No Im not being dramatic this is happening. Anyone but Obama in 2012.


81 posted on 02/15/2012 1:35:45 AM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: rarestia

As for the old war-heads? Well, they’re going for a lot on e-bay. That’ll help balance the budget.


82 posted on 02/15/2012 3:19:24 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: rarestia

Why don’t we just sell our nukes to Iran, that will help pay off the debt. I’m sure now that Obama is president and has made all his overtures towards them they harbor no ill will toward us, peace at last !!! YES !!


83 posted on 02/15/2012 4:32:52 AM PST by Scythian
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To: A Navy Vet; wolf78
It isn’t that easy. First of all, five nukes wouldn’t “crash the world” at all—the US alone have blown up over a thousand nukes already, in tests. Many of them on the surface. The world didn’t end.

Second, if you were going to nuke another country, you would use plenty of your nukes to target their nuke sites, so most of their nukes won’t ever be used. You won’t be left with 200 nukes after an attack, if that is all you have.

That blowing up a few nukes, even on big cities, will end civilization is an old KGB myth. Back then, the commies were trying to convince our people that all we had to do was destroy all our nukes, and the peace loving communists would be so impressed by our peaceful ways of love, that they will spontaneously disarm, too, and we will all hug each other and spend the rest of our days eating granola together.

Instead, a nuclear war is quite doable, especially for a dictator. Japanese and German cities were totally destroyed after World War II; a few years later, they had been rebuilt. A dictator has only to be ruthless and evil enough, and this will seem like a viable option to him. The likes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, perhaps even Assad, would not have any compunction whatever. Not to mention the crazy Islamists.

That is why you can never have enough nukes.

84 posted on 02/15/2012 4:48:32 AM PST by cartan
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To: AnTiw1

“We have nothing to fear from senator obama”.

john mccain.


85 posted on 02/15/2012 4:48:45 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: rarestia

“Hey, let’s both get rid of our weapons. You go first.”


86 posted on 02/15/2012 5:03:59 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: A Navy Vet

And if they manage to destroy some of our nuclear forces? The entire point to our huge stocks was that russia and china couldn’t fool themselves into believing a first strike could prevent us from retaliating, or that they could come out a winner.


87 posted on 02/15/2012 5:35:16 AM PST by LevinFan
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To: MARKUSPRIME

You’re not being dramatic at all, Markus. I’ve been saying for years that Obama’s going to destroy America.

I’ve also been saying for years that we’re not going to make it to the election in November. My bet is martial law in August followed by a police state with Obama at the head.

“So this is how the Republic dies... with thunderous applause.” - Queen Amidala


88 posted on 02/15/2012 5:38:56 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: txrefugee

the “brass” are busy setting their staffs to work to figure out a strategic plan to deter or failing that,to defend against and maybe even retaliate for, a WMD attack on us or our allies or interests anywhere in the world, with 300 aging nuclear warheads that are the prime targets of at least 2 anti-USA superpowers with surging nuclear and other WMD programs

piece of cake

sarc


89 posted on 02/15/2012 5:58:23 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: rarestia; Quix

US slitting its own throat.


90 posted on 02/15/2012 6:32:48 AM PST by Joya (http://www.raptureready.com/)
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To: rarestia

This is insane...unless of course your aim is to fundamentaly change the nation and lower our defense capability to be vulnerable to potential enemies.

Barack Obama is a marxist ideolog who is doing precisely that...and with a will.

No one thought he could make so much progress across the board in so many areas in so short a time.

We simply must vote this man and his ilk out of office so he does not have his hands on the reigns of power for the next four years. It is becoming a matter of the actual survival of our constitutional republic.

Barack Hussein Obama: The man who despises America
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama-time.htm


91 posted on 02/15/2012 6:40:04 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: rarestia

ABSOLUTELY

TO DESTROY AMERICA

was why this Kenyan Marxist was reared, trained, conditioned, INSTALLED in the Whitehouse—that was his assignment . . . his orders.

Still is.

He’s gleefully persisting in his destructive assignment.

It’s about the only thing he seems to enjoy besides golf and vacationing.


92 posted on 02/15/2012 7:55:44 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: rarestia

He’s gleefully persisting in his destructive assignment.

It’s about the only thing he seems to enjoy besides golf and vacationing.

oh, . . . and being . . . uhhhh . . . ‘serviced’ by young adult males.


93 posted on 02/15/2012 7:56:46 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: cartan
It isn’t that easy. First of all, five nukes wouldn’t “crash the world” at all—the US alone have blown up over a thousand nukes already, in tests. Many of them on the surface. The world didn’t end.

I think navy vets point is a different one: One nuke in Beijing or New York would seriously f*ck up the world ECONOMY. With factory farming today you also need a supply chain (fertilizer, chemicals) and logistics. Hitting a number of industrial centers could also harm a nation's food supply.

That blowing up a few nukes, even on big cities, will end civilization is an old KGB myth.

Would it be the end of makind? No. Would it be the end of iPads, tourism, affordable gasoline and many other things that rely on international trade? Most likely yes. In 1950 there were 2.5 billion people living on the planet, now it's three times that. Trade and technology have become a necessity when having that many people, that's why the world economy is so fickle.

Instead, a nuclear war is quite doable, especially for a dictator. Japanese and German cities were totally destroyed after World War II; a few years later, they had been rebuilt.

And yet at the same time Germany shied away from using biological and chemical weapons, fearing that due to its central location it would have more to lose in a chemical / biological war.


94 posted on 02/15/2012 8:00:08 AM PST by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: wolf78

“Well, realistically speaking 200 nuclear warheads on large cities are enough to end civilization as we know it, by ending the world economy and ushering a nuclear winter lasting for years. Maybe it would be more of an ice age than a stone age, but you get the gist.”


Assuming;

1)The Russians/Chinese haven’t developed the technology to track/stalk our missile subs undetected and sink them before they can fire.

2) Assuming that with our subs lost, we have enough land based nukes to survive a 1st strike.

3) That if some of our land based nukes survive 1st strike, there are enough of them to severely damage Russia. WWII proved the Russian govt. and population is willing to absorb unthinkable casualties.

4) That our nukes would even work. As far as I know, our arsenal hasn’t been upgraded since whenever. They might not detonate and would just hit the target with a thud.

5) That obama would even order a retaliation. Considering how much he loathes this country, he may welcome a nuke attack against us as payback to whitey.

6) If he was willing to retaliate, would he survive long enough to order it? A Russian sub off the east coast could vaporize DC 5 minutes after launch if not sooner.

7) The Russians don’t have a suitcase nuke in DC that would obliterate the govt. and Pentagon before they launched a strike against the rest of the US.


95 posted on 02/15/2012 8:14:58 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: rarestia

Anybody remember the Nuclear attack drill in the schools back in the 60’s?.......I do.

Remember when every other home owner had, or was planning to build a fallout shelter in the basement?

Those times are coming back.

Keep prepping.


96 posted on 02/15/2012 10:12:10 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: txrefugee
It is sad. And the military's leaders' acquiescence is unforgivable. They all want to keep 3 and 4 stars when the retire. It's about them. If they were to resign, they would automatically revert to 2 stars, per military rules, unless Congress intervened (hah!)

By what law does the president get to set the number of weapons the U.S. fields?

97 posted on 02/15/2012 1:35:48 PM PST by pabianice (")
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To: rarestia

This is Obama’s SECOND warheads reduction!!!!

Obama has already reduced deployed warheads by 70% with the New START Treaty. New START was signed on 8 April 2010 in Prague and entered into force on 5 February 2011.

So this new reduction is 80% of the remaining 30%. Reagan taught ‘Peace through strength’; Progressives/Obama practice ‘Peace through capitulation’.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_START


98 posted on 02/15/2012 2:30:04 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: rarestia

With nuclear weapons, a little goes a long way. What is the cost of maintaining our redundant nuclear weapons? How much money can be saved and put back into the military for new weaponry?


99 posted on 02/15/2012 5:13:01 PM PST by turn_to
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To: pabianice

By what law does the president get to set the number of weapons the U.S. fields?


He’s a dictator, so he can do anything he wishes. Who will stop him,,,Congress? Queen Botox Pelosi said she supports dumbo ignoring Congress and doing whatever he wants.


100 posted on 02/15/2012 5:52:44 PM PST by chessplayer
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