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Bishops Reject Obama's 'Accommodation' - President's political hemorrhaging to continue.
American Spectator ^ | 2.13.12 | G. Tracy Mehan, III

Posted on 02/13/2012 7:12:20 PM PST by neverdem

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To: muawiyah
The standard of measurement can be in picocuries per gram, and on top of that, another measurement can be in picocuries per gram per microsecond, and that gets you in range to regulate burning tobacco.

You still don't get it: "fixing the Standard of Measure" has NOTHING to do with regulating items that can be measured by that standard.

81 posted on 02/16/2012 1:54:20 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Look, if you want to substitute your judgment for that of the Supreme Court, go ahead. It's a much more complex subject than rulers and baskets. We now have the entire electromagnetic spectrum and 4 known universal forces to account for ~ and who knows how many dimensions, is it 11 or 14?

Exactly what did you think was the basis in constitutional law for regulating atomic power plants?

82 posted on 02/16/2012 2:04:23 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Look, if you want to substitute your judgment for that of the Supreme Court

To which "judgment of the Supreme Court" do you refer?

Exactly what did you think was the basis in constitutional law for regulating atomic power plants?

I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was "none." Are you implying it's the Weights and Measures clause? Where's the evidence?

83 posted on 02/16/2012 2:18:00 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Think about it a moment ~ the Constitution recognized that INDIVIDUALS had the right to mount and carry arrays of heavy weapons on private ships ~ as big as anything the Navy had at the time.

We started out with INDIVIDUALS with the big guns and the government renting them for wars.

So, what about atomic power plants? What did the Founders do there? Did they assign such prerogatives to INDIVIDUALS, or did they find some other hidden way to keep them out of your hands?

Is it interstate commerce? Come on, tell me how they did it?

84 posted on 02/16/2012 5:17:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Look, if you want to substitute your judgment for that of the Supreme Court

To which "judgment of the Supreme Court" do you refer?

Exactly what did you think was the basis in constitutional law for regulating atomic power plants?

I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was "none." Are you implying it's the Weights and Measures clause? Where's the evidence?

Think about it a moment ~ the Constitution recognized that INDIVIDUALS had the right to mount and carry arrays of heavy weapons on private ships ~ as big as anything the Navy had at the time.

We started out with INDIVIDUALS with the big guns and the government renting them for wars.

So, what about atomic power plants? What did the Founders do there? Did they assign such prerogatives to INDIVIDUALS, or did they find some other hidden way to keep them out of your hands?

Is it interstate commerce? Come on, tell me how they did it?

All that cavorting but no answers to my simple questions. Dance, monkey, dance.

85 posted on 02/17/2012 11:39:42 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
No, you are the monkey ~ you imagine you've read the constitution and therefore know all the answers but it's pretty obvious you haven't read it, nor do you have an understanding of American history, and the whys and wherefores of everything.
86 posted on 02/17/2012 12:24:40 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

http://www.scripps.ohiou.edu/mediahistory/mhmjour2-2.htm ~ just for you. Herbert Hoover regulated radio ~ following Progressive standards ~ means the GD Commies did it, so now you know why the public let Roosevelt take over. As you read through that piece you’ll notice the use of the term “technology” and the limitations it had. Earlier there was no radio, but as soon as they got a grasp of how it worked, it was pretty obvious radio didn’t stop at the state line ~ you’ll want to look up the term “Natural Monopoly” to get a grasp on the legal thinking that led to Federal Regulation of the entire Electromagnetic Spectrum, starting with woodfired stoves all the way up to Terrawatt Lasers.


87 posted on 02/17/2012 12:42:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
if you wanted to put the Controlled Substances on a proactive W&M basis you'd get as much control as you do by starting from the Tax Basis used for much of the last century.

"fixing the Standard of Measure" has NOTHING to do with regulating items that can be measured by that standard.

Look, if you want to substitute your judgment for that of the Supreme Court

To which "judgment of the Supreme Court" do you refer?

http://www.scripps.ohiou.edu/mediahistory/mhmjour2-2.htm ~ just for you. Herbert Hoover regulated radio ~ following Progressive standards ~ means the GD Commies did it, so now you know why the public let Roosevelt take over. As you read through that piece you’ll notice the use of the term “technology” and the limitations it had. Earlier there was no radio, but as soon as they got a grasp of how it worked, it was pretty obvious radio didn’t stop at the state line ~ you’ll want to look up the term “Natural Monopoly” to get a grasp on the legal thinking that led to Federal Regulation of the entire Electromagnetic Spectrum, starting with woodfired stoves all the way up to Terrawatt Lasers.

Interesting read - but despite the appearance of the word “technology,” the article has no bearing on the Congressional power to "fix the Standard of Weights and Measures," much less on regulation of items that can be measured by that standard.

88 posted on 02/17/2012 1:45:55 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
With very little effort it is possible to OUTLAW A MOLECULE at the federal level simply with the claim that it does not adhere to the prescribe standard. All you need to do is have a "standard", like for the active ingredients in opium, and there you have it, or for medically effective THC.

The possibilities are endless now that we can actually see, measure, and describe these molecules.

It's rather like the observation that light crosses state lines.

89 posted on 02/17/2012 1:53:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
With very little effort it is possible to OUTLAW A MOLECULE at the federal level simply with the claim that it does not adhere to the prescribe standard. All you need to do is have a "standard", like for the active ingredients in opium

That's neither a weight nor a measure, and thus not encompassed by the Weights and Measures clause. And a search of USSC cases for the phrase "weights and measures" locates only passing references to that clause.

Sorry, you FAIL.

90 posted on 02/17/2012 2:18:45 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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