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Soldier's death sparks debate over arming medevacs
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Posted on 02/13/2012 4:48:26 PM PST by nuconvert

It took a medevac unit 59 minutes to get U.S. Army Spec. Chazray Clark to a hospital in southern Afghanistan after receiving a call that a roadside bombing severed three of his limbs. Clark did not survive.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: medevac; medevacs; military

1 posted on 02/13/2012 4:48:30 PM PST by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

OK. This post is full of expletives and other unmentionables. So 90% I’ve already deleted.

The medevacs don’t need to be armed. With the greatest military on the planet, the lives of our troops comes first. Use our superior technology and capabilities to THEIR FULLEST.

No matter how many of those c***suckers you have to lay waste.

And that includes EVERY GDed one of them down to the last tit-sucking babe.


2 posted on 02/13/2012 4:58:49 PM PST by bigheadfred (Wogga la Hooga)
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To: bigheadfred

I appreciate your holding back on the language, and agree with you on all points.....GG


3 posted on 02/13/2012 5:38:17 PM PST by goat granny
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To: nuconvert

BRING BACK NAPALM.

IT’S CRISPY CRITTER TIME.

THE WEAPON THAT DOESN’T MISS.

LET’S SPREAD FEAR AND DEATH BIG TIME.

NEW AFGHAN DISH: FRIED TALIBAN WITH HOT NUTS!


4 posted on 02/13/2012 5:57:07 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: nuconvert

There’s absolutely no reason to not arm them. War isn’t like the old days when medical units were, for the most part, not considered targets. Today’s enemy doesn’t give a crap if it’s Army, Navy, medical, civilian, or even their own buddy walking next to your truck. And arming medevacs would allow for more injured to get to proper care facilities quicker. Maybe not in all cases, but definitely in cases where there’s possible enemy nearby, and some form of escort is required. You don’t need a C-130 for that.


5 posted on 02/13/2012 6:50:25 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

The fear from the Medivac community is that if there is no difference between Medivac and regular helicopters the Medivac community will soon see its helicopters overtaken into regular CABs.


6 posted on 02/13/2012 8:42:45 PM PST by chargers fan
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To: bigheadfred; nuconvert
Fred, I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you, at your intemperate language. One more such outburst, and I shall report you to our Commander in Chief, The Mombasa MF hisself!

I hope you are not suggesting that we abandon our sterling efforts to guarantee the "Afghans" free expression of homosexual pedophilia, clitorectomy, and honor killings. After all, these quaint practices are part of their culture, and as you well know, all cultures are equally valuable.

In fact, as the MMF's supporters often tell me, the homosexual part is more valuable than the rest.

7 posted on 02/14/2012 6:09:31 AM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: nuconvert

My dad (medic)carried a 1911 A1 during the Battle of the Bulge. Germans became very indiscriminate in their shooting and killed some medics.

He was trained to suppress rifle fire with the pistol. His shooting skills are very different than most pistol shooters I have seen.


8 posted on 02/14/2012 9:51:56 AM PST by buffaloguy (uab.)
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Kudos to your dad. Those guys were amazing.

I find it interesting that the headline says it’s the death of this one soldier that sparked the controversy or discusssion or whatever. Michael Yon has been on this for months and the mainstream media has been ignoring it. Watch Obama all of a sudden start to actually care or appear to care about what’s happening in the war he claims is not a war. Everything is political. All these articles are placed, not reported.


9 posted on 02/14/2012 6:25:40 PM PST by campfollower (ABO - Anybody But Obama)
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To: chargers fan; All

“The fear from the Medivac community is that if there is no difference between Medivac and regular helicopters the Medivac community will soon see its helicopters overtaken into regular CABs.”

A legitimate fear. Combatant commanders are really quick to use anything as a weapon with the excuse they “need” it....often to the detriment of the original mission of the platform. IF medivac helos are to be armed, which I think they should be, then regulations (with UCMJ violations prosecuted if they are ignored) will have to be clear that Medivac helos, although armed, are ONLY for medivac purposes and not to be used otherwise except in the MOST EXTREME of circumstances.


10 posted on 02/14/2012 7:24:35 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: nuconvert
I do not think that the enemy cares about the humanity of the unarmed rescue medevacs, and I suspect that they do not respect the red cross painted on the medevac birds; and, if there is an escort, then it's actually armed, n'est ce pas?

Arm the medevacs (to the teeth), and make them multi-role.

If every helo was a potential medevac, and every medevac could return fire, we would be multiplying our force strength.

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11 posted on 02/14/2012 9:03:42 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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