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To: butterdezillion

I’d bet money (if I had any. lol) that there is more to all the R caving than just politics. It’s too consistent and it is too much of an in-your-face spitting on the people the R’s need to support them. Just like the D’s that went along with suicidal votes after being pressured by the leaders of their party and then took it in the rear in the mid-term election. It’s something besides politics-as-usual that is getting these lawless results. There is something both the R’s and D’s fear more than just not getting re-elected because they are willing to fall on their electoral swords for an agenda that is destroying America.


Amen!!!!!! These guys must be being blackmailed, threatened, their families threatened - something. No one seems to have the moral fortitude to do what’s right. What are they possibly being threatened with that they even do things that are political suicide, as you said?

I’m praying for that act of God - that he’ll have mercy on our country once again, altho we don’t deserve it. Such corruption..... :-(


46 posted on 02/11/2012 1:08:44 PM PST by boxlunch
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To: boxlunch

If it’s political suicide, they must believe that something even bigger than their own career is at stake. Something that would make their career moot.

In the case of Ben Nelson, he was willing to fall on a sword that not only ended his career but has made him practically a cuss word in Nebraska. After many years of half-decent service to Nebraskans. He was willing to give up his good name as well as his career. This is NOT politics as usual. I feel in my gut that it’s much larger than that.

And we’ve not had a budget since Obama took office. Besides that, when dems were the LAME DUCKS in Congress, the R’s STILL gave up the don’t-ask-don’t-tell policy, the budget battle, AND agreed to the treaty with Russia whereby the Russians now say we can’t develop missile defense systems. The R’s knew they would take the House if they just delayed but they wouldn’t even do that. Definitely more than meets the eye.


53 posted on 02/11/2012 1:26:57 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: boxlunch
Or the easier explanation is that they are bought off and want the power just like the democrats. Those in the party that don't agree just get marginalized from the leadership ranks and we have seen that happen. The system is past the tipping point when it comes to keeping the corruption at bay. Now the game in D.C. is to keep the upstanding out of the power circle and away from the makers and breakers within each party. If this continues as at it is, then we will transition from the current soft tyranny to a hard and nasty one rather quickly.
86 posted on 02/11/2012 6:12:45 PM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: boxlunch; butterdezillion

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”

Woodrow Wilson, “The New Freedom” (1913).


90 posted on 02/11/2012 9:37:51 PM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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