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1 posted on 02/10/2012 2:53:34 PM PST by MNDude
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Liberals love abortion for the following reasons:

It plays into the “sexual freedom” movement of the 60’s and the unrestrained expression of frustrated juvenile libido, the suppression of which, in influential psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich’s catachism, leads to sadistic-authoritarian types. There is some evidence that this is the case.

It lessens the value of human life and increases tolerance for “assisted death” programs and subsequent incremental ratcheting of various forms of eugenics type FEMA euthenasia “camps”

It amplifies social philosophies of “being in the moment” and “live for today” in an attempt to engineer out of our society a sense of future for making responsible planning decisions. This becomes the carnival playground for hedonists and parasites as well as bread and circuses media designed to bandaid the misery and suffering that will follow this paradigm shift.

It works alongside the neo-Malthusian “overpopulation” initiative designed to remove 4 billion human beings from this planet one way or another. It justifies as an alternative, the genetic manipulation of agricultural seed stocks that carry human sterility potential, an existent technology and one, if adopted, will lead to God knows what manipulations of human genetics. Show Monsanto how much you like this idea with a message tied to a brick.

The left is one big hormone clogged juvenile delinquent.

On the other hand, the right has yet to mobilize effectively against a far more massive evil- The Federal Reserve System. Break out that box of old John Birch literature, troops, Smedley Butler got his chops on the bugle.


31 posted on 02/10/2012 3:22:35 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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If so, could you offer some insight on their mentality?

Secular humanist libtards are ethical relativists. They want an scientific ethics based on birth control and abortion.According to Corliss Lamont, a primary reason for the enormous importance given to genital faithfulness and unfaithfulness was the lack of reliable birth-control techniques. Now that those techniques, including abortion, are generally available, this importance has more and more diminished

32 posted on 02/10/2012 3:24:11 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Because they are all ghouls!


34 posted on 02/10/2012 3:25:38 PM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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Unencumbered sex.

No consequences.


35 posted on 02/10/2012 3:29:10 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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Libs always want to lower the bar. Once it is lowered far enough, they don’t have to feel guilty about how screwed up they are.

Want to kill a baby out of convenience? Don’t feel guilty - make it normal.

So screwed up you want to have sex with someone of the same gender? Don’t feel guilty - make it normal.

Don’t want to back up your own word and pay your bills? - Don’t feel guilty - make it normal.

On and on. Libs will do anything they can to excuse how screwed up they are.


39 posted on 02/10/2012 3:34:01 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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Since 40% of the abortions are for blacks even though they are only 12% of the population, it must be a racist thing. They are trying to keep down the black population.


42 posted on 02/10/2012 3:37:01 PM PST by Starstruck
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biology “discriminates” against women because they can’t, like men, have consequence free sex — pregnancy being the “consequence”. this is their way of using the federal government to correct the “injustice” committed by biology.

I think it’s literally that bizarre.


44 posted on 02/10/2012 3:39:00 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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At the root of it, I think most radical, pro-abortion “feminists” (ironically) hate being women. They feel that they were unfairly dealt the wrong cards.

There is nothing but hate and anger that propels many of them on a daily basis, and supporting abortion allows them to “play God”- the ultimate middle finger at Nature.


45 posted on 02/10/2012 3:39:35 PM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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They believe that, without it, women are not equal. The pendulum has swung too far and it is going to hit them in the head on the way back.


46 posted on 02/10/2012 3:41:23 PM PST by AdaGray
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An estimated 43% of all women will have at least 1 abortion by the time they are 45 years old. These people and spouses have to justify the act. Without justification they are murderers. So they go out of their way to assuage their guilt.


47 posted on 02/10/2012 3:41:49 PM PST by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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Are you asking about individual liberals, or organizations? In the case of individual liberals, part of the driving factor in the intensity of their feelings relate to psychological defense mechanisms built up in their minds to fight the guilt of their own abortions. This has been known in the pro life movement for some time, and so when engaging these people, that has to be taken into account. Don't be surprised that the most militant ones are actually the most hurt and damaged by their own abortions.

For better information, you may want to talk to a priest who is active in the pro life movement. They will have extensive experience with women who have had abortions.

53 posted on 02/10/2012 4:04:25 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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It’s what a liberal craves most - ultimate control over someone else’s life.


55 posted on 02/10/2012 4:10:21 PM PST by Gaffer
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I’m betting it’s the same answer you’ll get out of libertarians (the other liberals) where they will tell you that they believe it’s an individual right for each to make and it’s not something they believe others should have a say in. They might surrender a bit and say it should be up to the individual states if it will be legal or not.


57 posted on 02/10/2012 4:25:43 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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Many liberals are basically selfish, immature people. They tend to see anything that involves an obligation to others over self as an unconscionable burden.


58 posted on 02/10/2012 4:34:31 PM PST by Catmom
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They are slaves to the spirit of this world. That spirit demands blood and rewards slaves with power. RATs are modern servants of Molech no matter how enlightened they may feel they are. Killing babies has no sane or moral excuse.


60 posted on 02/10/2012 4:40:58 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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Having convinced themselves that God is not real, that human life is absent of eternal meaning, and that existence in ultimately futile, hopeless souls sometimes choose to commit terrible and destructive acts, so that they may find a simulacrum of reason in the mastery of Death. In such service, the killing of one’s own unborn child is at once an ultimate act of brutal self-negation, and of a defiant solipsism.


62 posted on 02/10/2012 4:58:14 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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I walked in pro-abortion movements when I was in college. Here is my story.

When I first learned what abortion was when I was around 12, I was horrified and said that I was against it. Why did I change? Bear with me.

As a teenager, I honestly tried to be a good person. But, like the rest of humanity, I could never live up to my own expectations. I could never study for as many hours a day as the top students. I didn’t treat my parents as well as I should have.

The most mature response would have been “well, just do your best, keep trying to do better, but accept that you are imperfect.” But to a teenager with self-confidence issues, accepting imperfection was impossible.

I therefore resented those who were placing what I felt were impossible standards on me. I was drawn to relativistic philosophies, which didn’t feel so suffocating and where I could define myself as the hero. I was subconsciously feeling guilty about not achieving the standards I felt I should achieve, and needed to attack someone to assuage my guilt.

I had gone to Bible school a little bit when I was young, and I remembered the moral precepts they taught me. I therefore resented them for teaching me the “impossible” standards, and decided the traditional Christian Church would be my enemy.

In college, I learned the traditional Christian Church was against abortion. I therefore was drawn to the pro-choice side. Also, I went to a very liberal college, and women liked guys who were pro-choice.

But even then, abortion always made me very uncomfortable. The truth is that abortion is uncomfortable to most of its advocates, which is why they compensate by getting so passionate about defending it.

The best way to win the abortion fight is not to get sidetracked on any other issues but to emphasize that the child is alive. Avoid getting into discussions of sexual morality or the Bible or whatever. The only subject that matters is biology.


63 posted on 02/10/2012 4:58:46 PM PST by Our man in washington
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Having convinced themselves that God is not real, that human life is absent of eternal meaning, and that existence is ultimately futile, hopeless souls sometimes choose to commit terrible and destructive acts, so that they may find a simulacrum of reason in the mastery of Death. In such service, the killing of one’s own unborn child is at once an ultimate act of brutal self-negation, and of a defiant solipsism.


64 posted on 02/10/2012 4:59:55 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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Because a world with a steady or declining population doesn’t require the innovation of free market capitalism to feed, cloth, and maintain quality of life for people.


65 posted on 02/10/2012 5:09:39 PM PST by Yardstick
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They think it is a necessary key to “freedom”.

They usually view pregnancy as an endless painful experience that must be avoided.
They usually view babies and children as burdens that are obstacles to happiness.
The resent that men don’t pay the same physical consequences for sex that women do.


66 posted on 02/10/2012 5:15:48 PM PST by Scotswife
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