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To: OrangeHoof

Why not let women decide since they are part of society?

The fact of the matter is that women have been fighting and dying for the past decade with no public outcry. I think society has already made their decision.


72 posted on 02/10/2012 9:01:54 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Harlan1196; manc

Manc is a vet and has real experience with seriving alongside women. I find it noteworthy that Harlan, a brand spanking noob, not only is riveted to eligibility threads on the wrongs side (and spewing nonstop almost as if he had an agenda) but now he’s supporting feminazi/leftist “women in combat zones”.

Manc, tell him like it is. Not that he’d care, he’s agenda driven.


74 posted on 02/10/2012 9:22:47 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Harlan1196

really, well let me tell you something which I know more than most who have served and is serving.

I was one of the first to ever write a report on women serving.
We were out int he Arctic and had a woman attached to us.

This is how the patrol went for the next few days.

It was her time of the month which was not helpful as animals can smell and follow etc, then there is the distraction for her, on her period.

Then she could not keep up, we had to share some of her equipment with others so she could at least keep to a slow patrol.
She BTW was supposed to be one of the best.

It caused friction on the patrol between the men, some men only saw boobs etc, some resented her for having to do her job which she could not do.

She was always late, could not do the job, for some reason thought she should be treated differently etc.

It was a nightmare.

She stayed with us for 3 months and for those 3 months she was not able to the the job, she could not carry nearly a 100pound backpack, she could nto keep up running, climbing, carrying etc.
She caused a big distraction, she caused upset in the company

if women think they want to sewrve then they do the same pyshical tests, not have them reduced she stays in that water for hours, she carries 100 pound backbacks, she carries all of her stuff, she must be able to fight, do the same push ups, sit up, assault course in the same time

I wrote a report at the end of the tour for her and it went into detail on how she was, how the men were how it affected the patrols etc

That report was lie the bogus survey about homosexuals serving.
They ignored it, they twisted the reports, I talked to others who were in charge like me and they all said it did not work out.


84 posted on 02/10/2012 10:24:37 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Harlan1196

if a woman wants to serve she has to do the same tests, right now women do not, have you ever seen the state of many in the army airforce, navy , only the Marines and special forces have real people who want to serve not the I want the free education, free loans, VA etc.

Women should do 30 miles, carrying 50 pound over cross country, in 8 hours then do tests like push ups, swim quarter mile, carry another person over an assault course etc

You want to preach about women serving then good you get a woman which can exactly the same test physical wise because right now they make it easier for women.

Women are not as strong lets face it than some serving marines and I ma for women equal rights that means do the same exactly


86 posted on 02/10/2012 10:28:50 AM PST by manc (FOX, DRUDGE, HAS BEEN DISGUSTING IN THEIR BIASED ATTACKS V NEWT. I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Harlan1196

“Why not let women decide since they are part of society?”

In terms of military participation, I agree to a point. But I would draw the line at infantry, troops on the ground, etc. From there it’s a short hop to drafting women. I’m not for that. Call me a dinosaur but I think part of being a man is feeling the obligation to protect women.


126 posted on 02/12/2012 6:45:56 AM PST by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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