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To: EveningStar

I can only imagine what torture he went through watching the Challenger explode.

I know very well what happens when you try to present unpleasant facts to managers, and what happens when they refuse to listen to you and take political expedience over sound engineering judgement.

It my case, it wasn’t a matter of life and death or billions of dollars, but the failure I warned about was just as real, and it came to pass just as I predicted.

Rest in peace, Mr. Boisjoly.


11 posted on 02/07/2012 2:10:05 PM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Fresh Wind

Like the Intel Officer in the British army who tried to tell them the Germans were in force around Arnham but the brits still went on with Operation Market Garden. Monty wanted the headlines and ended up destroying the Britsh Paras.
He ended up having a nervious breakdown....


14 posted on 02/07/2012 2:21:51 PM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Fresh Wind
I know very well what happens when you try to present unpleasant facts to managers, and what happens when they refuse to listen to you and take political expedience over sound engineering judgement

Non-engineering types are convinced that one can somehow lean on physical matter and get it to behave a certain way the same as they bully people into behaving a certain way. People may be manipulated. Physical material is another matter. They'll never learn.
15 posted on 02/07/2012 2:22:55 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: Fresh Wind
political expedience over sound engineering judgement.

I'm convinced NASA wanted the Shuttle in orbit it time for the State Of The Union address that afternoon.

16 posted on 02/07/2012 2:23:56 PM PST by null and void (Day 1114 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Fresh Wind

I know very well what happens when you try to present unpleasant facts to managers, and what happens when they refuse to listen to you and take political expedience over sound engineering judgement.

I just left a company for that very reason. I don’t intend to spend the next few years attempting to salvage a doomed project based on bad assumptions by management. It’s always scary when a lack of knowledge is replaced by the mystical yes man’s assurance of success.


20 posted on 02/07/2012 2:31:26 PM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Fresh Wind
I laid out the plan to save the Postal Service in the Twenty First Century to (then Deputy) Postmaster General William F. Bolger back in 1976(?).

He punted.

It crashed as predicted in 2011.

Roger was one of my heroes.

23 posted on 02/07/2012 2:38:03 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Fresh Wind
"I know very well what happens when you try to present unpleasant facts to managers

Me too, I got fired but I was right and I started the company that fired me! Well late company would be more correct since they went belly up a couple of years later. Not life and death thank goodness. G*d bless the whistle blowers.

26 posted on 02/07/2012 2:45:04 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Fresh Wind
I was working at NASA, JSC when Challenger died. To this day I still can not watch it. The little company I worked for Barrios Tech had the wives of two of Challenger crew working for them. I will never forget that day and how terrible it was for all of us.

Reagan was a wonderful president, his speech at NASA JSC really helped weal the wound.

28 posted on 02/07/2012 2:51:35 PM PST by jpsb
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