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To: mkjessup

I’m glad our founders didn’t take this advice.


24 posted on 02/07/2012 11:19:45 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus
I’m glad our founders didn’t take this advice.

I am too, however, the Founders faced a distant enemy at a time when travel and messages were very slow; when your domestic government could not track you by the second; when your domestic government didn't have chemical agents and heavy armored vehicles.

26 posted on 02/07/2012 11:36:57 AM PST by Lazamataz (Yes, I am THAT Conservative.)
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I’m glad our founders didn’t take this advice.

Our Founders were faced with an entirely different set of dynamics and anyone with a room temperature IQ ought to know that. We are not faced with King George and his Redcoats today, we are faced with a dictatorial regime with all of the moral scruples of Stalin, Hitler or Mao.

And that regime operates above the law, not answering to anyone or accounting in any way for their actions. Our vaunted 'two party system' has been utterly corrupted and is evolving into something little different than the single column of 'candidates' that were 'nominated' by the old Soviet Communists, and the only choice you had were to 'approve' or 'not approve', and if you wanted to avoid a trip to Siberia, you knew you better 'approve'.

It is all well and good to spout off about what our 'Founders' would have done, however our grand ancestors did NOT have to deal with instantaneous transmission of information in audio/video form, they were not under the sort of surveillance that is available to our tyrannical masters, and they for damn sure did not have to face the massive firepower and munitions up to and including tactical nukes that can be brought to bear against us. Anybody here think that 0bama and his crew would never consider using a tactical nuke somewhere deep in Red State (real) America? Raise your hands.

During the darkest days of World War II in Britain, Sir Winston Churchill was mentally prepared to fight on from Canada if need be, had the British home territories fallen to Nazi Germany (that's one reason why the UK sent all of it's gold reserves TO Canada earlier in the War). Well bearing that in mind Mr. Durus, I submit to you and anyone else who cares to listen, that in OUR case, the Nazis are already HERE, our fascist overlords in Washington are expanding their control over us each and every day, they are already beginning the crackdown, starting with those 'Sovereign Citizens' who have been classified as terrorists by the FBI.

How many files and dossiers would anyone like to speculate have already been assembled of FReepers on this website?

God Bless JimRob, the Feds would have to pry our IP addresses from his broken hands if they were to show up at his home (in my opinion), but I suspect they've already done enough 'packet sniffing' and other NSA-style snooping to figure out who-is-who, and who-is-where. Unless you (or anyone) as a FReeper have been using proxies and other privacy tools over the last 10 years, the odds are that your whereabouts are already well known.

Now it takes a lot of guts and courage to just stand up and face down whatever federal fascist thugs show up one day in your town, or perhaps on your front yard, and just say *FUBO* !!! and go out in a blaze of glory, God bless any true Patriot who draws their own line in the sand and then enforces it, come what may.

But then what? You're dead. You might be remembered one day, you might even have a marker planted on the spot where you laid down your life for our Country. Depending on how many of those fascists you took with you, they might write poems and sing songs about you.

But I ask you: what if you were able to prepare for such a final confrontation with greater chances of success? If Churchill had climbed up to an antiaircraft battery and shouted "SCREW Hitler!!!" and inspired all of Britain in doing so, how much good would have been accomplished had he been lowered into the grave way too soon?

There is a time to die for every Patriot. However the wise Patriot will pick the time, not their enemies. If that involves figuratively 'leaving the UK for Canada' as Sir Winston was prepared to do, so be it. That isn't surrender, that's (as Sarah Palin herself would say) RELOADING.

That's the way I see it and I don't give a damn if anyone likes it or not.
32 posted on 02/07/2012 12:08:05 PM PST by mkjessup (Let's do to Mitt what his Irish Setter did to him while tied to the roof rack of his station wagon!)
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