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5 Things Conservatives Can Learn From Liberals
Townhall.com ^ | February 7, 2012 | John Hawkins

Posted on 02/07/2012 4:41:36 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 02/07/2012 4:41:39 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“Why can’t conservatives in D.C. ever seem to do that any more?”

Because there are no conservatives in D.C.


2 posted on 02/07/2012 4:53:58 AM PST by ngat
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To: Kaslin

Great article.

I would’ve added one more point: Conservatives rarely get off their fat butts and attend local government meetings, and then they wonder why their property taxes shoot up 10% a year. Asking a conservative to attend a county board meeting is like inviting a vampire to a sunrise cross worship service.


3 posted on 02/07/2012 4:54:54 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Kaslin

Lie, cheat and steal?


4 posted on 02/07/2012 5:01:03 AM PST by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: Kaslin

This article reminds me of the quote by Mark Twain: “I don’t want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member. .... —Mark Twain ...


5 posted on 02/07/2012 5:08:18 AM PST by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: ngat
"Because there are no conservatives in D.C."
Correct... there are republicans.... republicans are not conservative, they are socialist lite... they crave attention and power, just like a lib.....
6 posted on 02/07/2012 5:33:24 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Kaslin

This guy is wrong about embracing identity politics. We’ve hade enough Balkanization. We need to promote being an American.


7 posted on 02/07/2012 5:37:19 AM PST by Buddy Sorrell (It's Algebra, Uncle Fletcher.)
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To: Kaslin

#4 would be very satisfying.
I especially like the idea of turning the tables with the logic fallacy of “complex question” back on them -

“why do you hate poor people so much you want to keep them dependent?”

“why do you hate young black men so much that you want to price them out of the work force?”


8 posted on 02/07/2012 5:43:25 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
Back after the 2004 Republican election victory ~ early 2005 when most Republicans were celebrating the country turning Red (GOP) I was watching liberals plotting on their websites and TV/cable shows how to beat Republicans.

The one strategy I see Dems use all the time that they talked about back then was ‘framing issues’ so that their positions look reasonable and the other side's looks stupid. At the same time Republicans act like they will win public support for their actions automatically with little work, even though congressional Republicans keep getting creamed by Obama.

So Republicans take over the House last year and first thing want to take on is deficit reduction after 2+trillion of new Obama debt. So Obama lays a trap for congressional Republicans to make it look like they are opposing deficit reduction, and to look like Obama reaching out to Republicans for it ; and they walk right into Obama the trap.

Obama refuses to raise taxes on the rich with his Democrat majority (beyond what's in Obama-care), and in 2011 he frames the issue that (house) Republicans are ‘fighting to protect the rich’. Obama's message is " If only House Republicans would go along on 'asking the rich to pay a little more' then there would be no more deficits, no more debt, every public school would have plenty of teachers, plenty of police and fire-fighters, free health care,....and all it would take is a 1 or 2 % surcharge on the rich it pay for it all", when he couldnt even get the Dem congress to raise those taxes when he had the chance.
Obama's argument is so stupid...but...Republicans responses ?? "Duh"

Then there was the FICA/SS tax battle. Republicans really let Obama beat the crap out of them in reframing that issue. His message “Republicans want to raise your taxes and cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires.”

The fact that Boehner and McConnell kept those leadership positions in 2009 was a sign of coming doom. I never understood it.

9 posted on 02/07/2012 5:49:42 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: Kaslin

I just want us to fight, even if we go down swinging. Too many people sacrificed for us to have this great nation. For the left to tear it down and make it like any other 3rd world hell hole is disgraceful and the greatest human tragedy since the rejection of our Lord Jesus Christ.

It might be that we fail in our fight and we have to wait for Christs return, but we can stand before him knowing we tried to defeat the Satanic Left.


10 posted on 02/07/2012 6:13:32 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Kaslin

Liberals acquire power and fortune from government. They are as tenacious in doing that as Freeport McMoran is in clawing gold from the earth.


11 posted on 02/07/2012 6:15:47 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Buddy Sorrell

Ditto.


12 posted on 02/07/2012 6:22:45 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: Buddy Sorrell

To me it sounds like a blogger who feels aggrieved because people aren’t paying him for his efforts.


13 posted on 02/07/2012 6:24:10 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Kaslin

There is some truth here, but the biggest issues is that libs/progs/deviants control most of the media—this is by far the most important problem.


14 posted on 02/07/2012 7:11:13 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: sickoflibs

So true, that is why the Democrats are the corrupt party and the Republicans are the stupid party. It has been this way soooo long, I doubt it will ever change.


15 posted on 02/07/2012 7:23:12 AM PST by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: Kaslin; All

Excellent article.

The point I’m most in agreement with is #1.

I practice it. I drop lots of campaign literature. I pound lawn signs. I write checks.

I know the complaint by a number of Republicans is “I’ve got family to look after” or “I’ve got work committments”.

So do a lot of liberals. They have families and jobs too. Well OK, there are the professional protestor types but I think you all know what I mean.

They treat their elections as a crusade, a holy war if you will. We should do nothing less.


16 posted on 02/07/2012 7:24:14 AM PST by MplsSteve (Amy Klobuchar is no moderate. She's Al Franken with a nicer smile.)
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To: sickoflibs
The fact that Boehner and McConnell kept those leadership positions in 2009 was a sign of coming doom. I never understood it.

maybe because the reality is that the whole system is screwed to insulate *them* from US...???

sadly, while the ants work, the grasshoppers are busy golfing and fine dining and cocktail partying, with each other !!!

theres no fight between em at the gut level in most cases...its all kabuki to give the illusion of 'work' ...

old comic used to say that the commies would eventually whip us cause they had all day sunday to plot & plan...i believe he was right, and it came from our own *masters*...

17 posted on 02/07/2012 7:24:29 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Kaslin

I agree with these points. Another is that leftists hold conservatives to the letter of the law when it comes to what conservatives believe.They insist that any departure in their personal life is hypocrisy.Meanwhile, liberals have their big formal weddings and expect their conservative relatives to honor that, give gifts, take off work, go to the ends of the earth to make it special, for example.We comply, seeing it as a nod to tradition.Maybe it is time to make them FEEL the pain they are causing, make them live the primitive, minimal life they are saying is so good, stop letting them have it both ways.Maybe it is time to scorn at their green lawns, say tsk, tsk at their fine wares and gourmet foods.I think this approach worked somewhat with Gore and his energy gobbling lifestyle.


18 posted on 02/07/2012 7:56:54 AM PST by Anima Mundi (NO SPECIAL PRIVILEGE)
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To: Kaslin

Bastiat’s Negative Railroad explains the calculation and blessings of destruction. Bucanan/Tullock pick up on this math in The calculus of consent. Rent seekers gain more proportionally than free traders lose. h/t Lucid Discourse 4c negative railroad math.


19 posted on 02/07/2012 9:10:58 AM PST by lucid discourse (got an uncontrollable urge. I got to scream and shout it.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

List didn’t include the niche groups Conservatives do well with—The NRA for instance, and Church Groups. We need to be issue focused—Look at the Coalition of Black Churches, Mormons and Roman Catholics that ended gay ‘marriage’? Look at when the Government got rid of a 10 commandments plaque in a Georgia Courthouse? Protesters came out that united groups—such as Black Baptist churches and the KKK. Any issue that unites such divergent groups is where the Conservatives need to be.


20 posted on 02/07/2012 10:49:16 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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