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FBI warns of threat from anti-government extremist
Reuters ^ | Patrick temple-west

Posted on 02/06/2012 11:10:08 PM PST by yank in the UK

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday. These extremists, sometimes known as "sovereign citizens," believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antigovernment; obamasfault; sovereign
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maybe they should look in the mirror on who are the extrimists. tsa checkpoints, we have lost many rights in this country and people are supposed to just smile and ignore it ? seriously? maybe take away some of the police state and restore the constitution and people will not feel so much hatred towards government. after all there is a 90 percent disapproval rating of government , fix government and take away the police state and stop treating us all like we are the terrorists.
1 posted on 02/06/2012 11:10:29 PM PST by yank in the UK
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To: yank in the UK

Not surprising from a group of people that are in the fear business. Be afraid, very afraid. You need me.


2 posted on 02/06/2012 11:21:37 PM PST by microgood
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To: microgood
The following Free Republic thread is becoming more likely to fortell our future.

Congress Seeks To Authorize & Legalize FEMA Camp Facilities

Oops, just posting that makes me one of those "sovereign citizens" who should be rounded up.

3 posted on 02/06/2012 11:30:37 PM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: yank in the UK
Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday.

You know they’re right you read about Right Wing Anti-government extremist killing cops every day and blowing something up every other day and pooping on police cars and peeing on churches and camping out in parks making huge messes.

Uhhh wait a minute….

4 posted on 02/06/2012 11:31:56 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: yank in the UK

You think an election is going to restore our Republic?


5 posted on 02/06/2012 11:37:22 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep and insects need leaders.)
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To: Solitar

Funny thing is 3 1/2 years ago I would think any one is crazy for believing in the FEMA camp thing. But you know what? This stuff is for real! What are they planning and when do they plan on doing it? JUST Wondering?


6 posted on 02/06/2012 11:38:39 PM PST by crazydad
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To: yank in the UK

ABC Nightline featured a story on preppers. They have guns, oh my.


7 posted on 02/06/2012 11:48:52 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: Solitar
Congress Seeks To Authorize & Legalize FEMA Camp Facilities

It pays to be a little suspicious & a lot prepared. However, a Freeper posted a pretty realistic reply on the first page of that FR article:

I think that these are legitimate emergency disaster relief camps for a very good reason. Why? Simply a numbers game.

Say Obama orders the military to turn on the people of the United States. About 80% of the US military is Republican. How about “no.”

Police and other law enforcement types? For the vast majority, he’s not their boss and they don’t have to do what he says.

So who’s gonna do it? Bangladeshi 7-11 clerk shock troops? France?

If it was just a riot in a city, like South Central Los Angeles, maybe. But it wouldn’t be Obama putting them in rural camps, now would it?

Now compare this to a disaster like Katrina, or say the big one hits southern California. The logistics of disaster relief are terrible. It takes weeks to do anything. Unless, of course, what you needed was pre-positioned.

Occam’s razor.


....or you can choose to put on a bigger tinfoil hat and shiver yourself to sleep thinking there's a couple g-men under your bed ready to snatch you up and spirit you away to a US gas chamber at any moment.
8 posted on 02/07/2012 12:03:33 AM PST by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great site for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: yank in the UK
These extremists, sometimes known as "sovereign citizens" but really nothing other than citizens who understand our founding principles, believe they can live outside any type of completely corrupted government authority that has thoroughly destroyed the rule of law, FBI agents said at a news conference.

Fixed it.

9 posted on 02/07/2012 12:15:53 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: brent13a

Speaking of “g-men”... I always thought the “G Man”, G. Gordon Liddy, had the best advice for when government goose-steppers kick down your door.


10 posted on 02/07/2012 12:16:00 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: brent13a

Thank you.

And, I love...absolutely LOVE...cops.


11 posted on 02/07/2012 12:22:41 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Speaking of “g-men”... I always thought the “G Man”, G. Gordon Liddy, had the best advice for when government goose-steppers kick down your door.

I seem to recall him making a recommend to the effect that "their heads better be completely encased in solid Kevlar."

12 posted on 02/07/2012 12:41:18 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: yank in the UK

Back in the good old days, before newspeak, we called those folk who opposed taxes and gubmint tyranny patriots.


13 posted on 02/07/2012 1:35:52 AM PST by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: Pontiac
you read about Right Wing Anti-government extremist killing cops every day and blowing something up every other day

Meanwhile, these lunatics almost always turn out to be leftists.

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Joe Stack (IRS plane crasher) sums up his “manifesto” with this, a popular Karl Marx quote and a stab at Capitalism...

“The communist creed:
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed:
From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.”

-Joe Stack (1956-2010)
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Full text here: (CNN PDF file)

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From SFGate.com:

Unabomber essay urges attacks on 'techno-industrial system'
July 27, 2002 | By Dan Eggen, Dominic Gates, Washington Post

In an article published this spring by Green Anarchy, a radical environmental newsletter, [unabomber Ted] Kaczynski calls on revolutionaries to "eliminate the entire techno-industrial system" by "hitting where it hurts" and disparages the activities of most radicals as "pointless." ..."

“The fall 2001 issue of Green Anarchy published a letter from Kaczynski complaining that Subcomandante Marcos, leader of the Zapatista rebels in Chiapas, Mexico, was insufficiently pure as a revolutionary because he advocates bringing water and electricity to peasants....”

http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-07-27/news/17554242_1_contention-that-modern-society-radical-environmental-newsletter-kaczynski-kaczynski-s-views/2
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From anarchist-org.forum:

The Zapatista Army of National Liberation (El Ejército Zapatista de Liberación Nacional) is an anarcho communist army that is based in Mexico, mainly the poorest state in Mexico, Chiapas. In 1994, January 1st, they started their revolution and it has been increasingly successful throughout the years. Today, they are attempting non-violent struggles because the people told them too — they are truly an army of the people. However, both the people and their army are realizing how unsuccessful that tactic is.

Their ideology, Zapatismo, is a mixture of indigenous teachings, autonomism, anarchism and communism. Although other revolutions are going on in the world (like the Southern African anarcho communist movement), the Zapatista revolution was deemed the first modern revolution of our time and it’s bringing hope to people not only in Mexico, but around the world.”

http://anarchist-org.forum-gratuiti.net/t206-zapatista-anarcho-communist-revolution

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From the Wall Street Journal
NOVEMBER 24, 2007

Oswald was a dedicated communist who had defected to the Soviet Union in 1959 out of disgust with American capitalism. After becoming disillusioned with Soviet life, he returned to the U.S. in 1962. In early 1963, he bought a scoped rifle through the mail and soon used it to fire a shot (which missed) at retired general Edwin Walker, the head of the John Birch Society in Dallas. In the summer of 1963, Oswald was active in street demonstrations in support of Castro. In September 1963, he visited the Soviet and Cuban embassies in Mexico City seeking a travel visa that would allow him to travel to Cuba.

Oswald was among the radicals of the time who saw Third World revolutionaries like Castro as the wave of the communist future. He was well aware of Kennedy's efforts to overthrow Castro's regime. As a Senate investigative committee suggested in 1975, Oswald shot Kennedy to interrupt his administration's plans to assassinate Castro or to overthrow his regime in Cuba.

Ignoring Oswald's communist links, journalists and political leaders quickly claimed the president was a martyr to civil rights. Earl Warren said that Kennedy had "suffered martyrdom as a result of the hatred and bitterness that has been injected into the life of our nation by bigots." Martin Luther King said the assassination had to be viewed against the backdrop of violence against civil rights marchers in the South. James Reston wrote in the New York Times that "something in the nation itself, some strain of madness and violence, had destroyed the highest symbol of law and order."

The consensus opinion was that Kennedy was a victim of hate and bigotry, a casualty of his support for civil rights. The Cold War and Kennedy's ongoing feud with Castro were rarely mentioned as factors behind the assassination. The reasons? Mrs. Kennedy wanted her husband remembered as a modern-day Abraham Lincoln. Lyndon Johnson feared complicating relations with the Soviet Union. Liberals feared a replay of the McCarthy period, when the Wisconsin senator inflamed public opinion about fears of domestic communism.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119586848318702756.html

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"The woman accused of killing three colleagues at the University of Alabama in Huntsville [Amy Bishop] was a suspect in a 1993 attempted mail bombing, according to a report by The Boston Globe.

The report broke the day after it was learned that Bishop fatally shot her brother in Braintree in 1986. ..."

http://www.necn.com/02/14/10/Amy-Bishop-at-time-of-1993-mail-bomb-inv/landing.html?blockID=180453&feedID=4215
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"A family source said Bishop, a mother of four children - the youngest a third-grade boy - was a far-left political extremist who was "obsessed" with President Obama to the point of being off-putting."--Boston Herald, February 15, 2010

'Oddball' portrait of Amy Bishop emerges:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100215oddball_protrait_emerges_suspects_family_pals_offer_clues/srvc=home&position=0

14 posted on 02/07/2012 2:39:00 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Yet another example of left-wing lunatic violence...

The Last Honest Liberal-Caitie Parker (former friend of Representative Giffords shooter)
Multiple including twitter interview by Freeper ^ | 1-9-11 | Icwhatudo

Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 5:32:27 AM by icwhatudo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2653697/posts
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Here are Caitie Parker's (a former friend of the shooter) original responses to 3 different Twitter posters (the 'at' symbol @ = To: _______ )

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Here's a screen grab from the Huffington Post. Note that two of the lunatic's favorite reads is THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO and MEIN KAMPF [The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English as the Nazi Party].

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/jared-lee-loughner-gabrielle-giffords-shooter_n_806243.html
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“Loughner’s former [BEST] friend [Zach Osler] said that he was mostly influenced by the Zeitgeist Movement. Below is the ABC video interview with Jared Loughner’s friend, Zach Osler.” [see first link below]

(ABC Good Morning America video at link)

Zach Osler: [pp] “Zeitgeist Movement had a PROFOUND effect on shooter and how he saw the world”
http://www.norcalblogs.com/gate/2011/01/shooter-never-listened-to-talk-radio-called-gifford-stupid-after-meeting-her.php
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The ‘Zeitgeist Movement’ is basically a global Marxism one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeitgeist_Movement

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Concepts advocated by the Zeitgeist Movement

* Management of the Earth's Natural Resources: Once surveyed, the Earth's natural resources will no longer be privately owned. They will be managed according to general sustainability principles of preservation, recycling and optimization.

* No Money, Barter, Trade or Property: The monetary value of commodities does not represent the actual physical supply of natural resources, or their utilitarian value, which is integral to the success of the type of sustainable global society that the Zeitgeist Movement advocates. Income is a requirement for individuals to sustain life in a monetary system, so this in turn creates the need for commodities to be continuously bought and sold and for goods to be continuously produced, in order to make sure that the operation of social functions is maintained. This, combined with competition over market share, creates an abundance of goods that usually exceeds the demand for them, which in turn depletes natural resources and may create excessive waste.

Furthermore, the profit motive inherent in a monetary system, creates an incentive to increase profits regardless of the impact on human beings or the environment. When labor is displaced or outsourced, it either removes a laborer's source of sustenance, or takes advantage of inexpensive laborers. Certain manufacturers and corporations have been noted to contaminate the environment by dumping their by-products and waste materials, instead of disposing of them properly, in order to save money. Other manufacturers have been known to take advantage of a process called planned obsolescence in order to increase sales of their products over time. With universal access to goods and services provided by a sustainable means of production based on resource availability, optimization and preservation, these problems of a monetary economy can be overcome.

* Automation: Machine automation is more productive than human labor and replaces the need for people to perform repetitive and tedious tasks.

* Technological Unification of the Earth: Globally networked technological infrastructure is required to monitor planetary resources in real time, and theoretically make the most efficient use of them in solving planetary problems.

* Scientific Methodology: Decision making regarding the methods of production, what goods and services are to be provided, city planning and resource optimization, preservation and recycling will be arrived at by analysing relevant trends and data, via use of the scientific method.

* Sustainable City Systems: Utilizing a systemic approach for a sustainable global society, city systems may act as microcosm to the global network of technological infrastructure. The city system can incorporate all manufacturing, goods and services that people will use on a daily basis within the city limits. The city system may also utilize a cybernetic central computer to monitor energy and resource supply, usage and other relevant data in real time, relaying this information to other city systems that make up the macrocosm of the technologically unified globe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeitgeist_Movement

15 posted on 02/07/2012 2:43:31 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Pontiac
From 2008...

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http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/screen-shot-2011-01-08-at-3-05-33-pm.png

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From 2 DAYS before the shooting...

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KOS: My CongressWOMAN [Giffords] voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!
dailyKOS via google cache ^ | BoyBlue

Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:39:18 PM by Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2653556/posts

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Following the shooting...

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Sarah Palin's Culpability in Attempted Assassination of Giffords
by BJ Rudell
Sat Jan 08, 2011 at 12:23:13 PM PST
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/8/934315/-Sarah-Palins-Culpability-in-Attempted-Assassination-of-Giffords

16 posted on 02/07/2012 2:44:33 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Wow your good.

You have all of this stuff at hand.

I bow to your mastery.


17 posted on 02/07/2012 2:57:50 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: yank in the UK

So the tyrannical regime rolls on and if you oppose you will be arrested as a terrorist.

Yea, seems fine to me /sarc


18 posted on 02/07/2012 3:04:27 AM PST by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Pontiac

Lol. It’s the only way to deal with the lying liberal/leftist media. Shove the FACTS down their throats.


19 posted on 02/07/2012 3:04:40 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Pontiac
Obama launched his political career in the home of two COMMUNIST terrorists.


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"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at"
--Bill Ayers (1970), quoted in New York Times, September 11, 2001:

Article: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
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"Dig It. First they killed those pigs [ie, rich people], then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"
-Weather Underground leader and wife of Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, referring to the Manson murders

Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=63512670-BF7C-42A0-B41D-5D0FB9E09C09
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"It was at the Chicago home of [Bill] Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn that Obama, then an up-and-coming 'community organizer,' had his political coming out party in 1995. Not content with this rite of passage in Lefty World — where unrepentant terrorists are regarded as progressive luminaries, still working 'only to educate' — both Obamas tended to the relationship with the Ayers."
Article: The Company He Keeps:
Meet Obama’s circle: The same old America-hating Left
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YThjYTU1ZDBjNmQ2YzcwNzU1MmYwN2JiMWY0ZGI0NDA=&w=MA==

20 posted on 02/07/2012 3:08:47 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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