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To: Paladins Prayer
I prefer Collectivist and Individualist.
Either individuals have rights, or groups have rights. I do not believe that both can be true.

Affirmative Action is a group right.
The right to bear arms is an individual right.

Supporters of socialized medicine are claiming a group right.
Supporters of freedom of religion are expressing an individual right.

4 posted on 02/06/2012 10:30:11 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I am pro-Jesus, anti-abortion, pro-limited government, anti-GOP.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I prefer Collectivist and Individualist.”

Individuals form groups to collectively accomplish things they can’t accomplish individually.

“Either individuals have rights, or groups have rights. I do not believe that both can be true.”

As an individual in the group known as “Citizens of the State of Ohio”, I have the right to vote in State of Ohio elections, but not State of Indiana elections.

As an individual in the group known as “My Family”, I might participate in a vote to determine a restaurant at which to have dinner tonight. As an individual, I would determine a restaurant at which to have dinner tonight by making a decision, not by voting.

Voting requires a group.

So, is the right to vote in particular circumstances a group right held by some groups and not others , or an individual right that can only be exercised in a group?

Beats me.

Bear in mind that there is more than one type of right.


10 posted on 02/06/2012 11:22:22 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Excellent! A keeper.


17 posted on 02/06/2012 1:44:03 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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