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Super Bowl 2012 final: Giants 21, Patriots 17
Boston Globe ^ | 02/05/2012

Posted on 02/05/2012 7:22:13 PM PST by SeekAndFind

INDIANAPOLIS -- On one last Hail Mary try, Tom Brady heaved it up for his two star tight ends in the end zone. Neither Rob Gronkowski or Aaron Hernandez, who both got a hand in the play, could come down with it.

The New York Giants beat the New England Patriots 21-17 in Super Bowl XLVI, the second time the Giants beat the Patriots in the last four years in the NFL's title game.

Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw scored the go-ahead touchdown with 0:57 left in the game.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: chat; giants; patriots; sports; superbowl
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1 posted on 02/05/2012 7:22:25 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I have NEVER seen that kind of incomplete pass called intentionaL GROUNDING.

nEVER.


2 posted on 02/05/2012 7:24:43 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was not going to watch it but discovered 3 players from my Alma Mater (Troy University) were starting for the Giants. Osi who always says “University of Troy”, the kicker, Tynes and kickoff returner, Jerrel Jernigan. Jernigan looked so good, I wish they would let him return punts too.


3 posted on 02/05/2012 7:31:09 PM PST by yarddog
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To: SeekAndFind

Newt called it for the Giants yesterday. Now hopefully he can call it for his campaign.
Headline-’Newt Wins in the Fourth Quarter!’


4 posted on 02/05/2012 7:36:39 PM PST by paintriot (Newt 2012 & 2016 Thinking long term!)
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To: BenLurkin
You have a point. In 40 years of watching football on TV, I can't remember another incidence like that. Intentional grounding is usually within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. That was way down the field. If that's illegal, why isn't throwing it out of bounds illegal? The same intent is obvious.

Like the Calvin Johnson "possession" controversy from last year, I think the NFL has too many pointy-heads making up the rules.

The very next week after the Calvin Johnson thing, I watched a highlight reel of a receiver making an almost-identical catch in the end zone. But, he lost control of the ball after he crossed the plane of the sideline, and it was ruled a touchdown.

5 posted on 02/05/2012 7:39:04 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: FlyVet
You have a point. In 40 years of watching football on TV, I can't remember another incidence like that. Intentional grounding is usually within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. That was way down the field. If that's illegal, why isn't throwing it out of bounds illegal? The same intent is obvious.

Throwing throwing the ball out of bounds without a receiver in the area is illegal, and is called when it happens (though NFL quarterbacks are usually smart enough to throw it close enough to a receiver that it's not going to be called very often).

6 posted on 02/05/2012 7:42:50 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: FlyVet; dfwgator
The fact that there was no receiver in sight could just as easily have been due to a miscommunication between receiver and quarterback.

There is no way an official could know, unless he was psychic. Or maybe he was thinking “gotta be on the lookout for a safety” and then screwed up because of the Superbowl jitters. Or....Las Vegas?

As John Madden once famously said, “You have to remember, there are three teams on the field."

7 posted on 02/05/2012 7:44:53 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: FlyVet

I have never seen that called either but after it was explained, it was a correct call. I also noticed the players picked up on it immediately and began making “safety” symbols with their hands.


8 posted on 02/05/2012 7:47:43 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Throwing throwing the ball out of bounds without a receiver in the area is illegal,... WHEN the QB is under pressure AND when the QB makes said throw from within the tackle box.

Outside the tackle box, throws can be to nowhere. But inside the tackle box AND under heavy pressure, the call was easy.

Lots and lots of judgments involved - but Brady made this easy. It was grounding ... and it was a bad one.

9 posted on 02/05/2012 7:49:06 PM PST by Principled
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To: BenLurkin; FlyVet
I think that's a relatively new rule where if you're still in the pocket and there is no eligible receiver within 10yards, it's intentional grounding. My brother in law disagrees with me only because I am female.

Oh, and I made a bet when the Giants were 7-7 that they'd win the Superbowl with said brother in law. I could see a change in their attitude. WooHoo! Now he has to give me his intended Obama contribution!

10 posted on 02/05/2012 7:50:18 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Sure, without a receiver in the area, but when they make that throw “with a receiver in the area”, it’s 10 feet over everybody’s heads. Ain’t nobody catching that, not even Wilt Chamberlain. The intent is obvious.


11 posted on 02/05/2012 7:50:56 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: BenLurkin
The fact that there was no receiver in sight could just as easily have been due to a miscommunication between receiver and quarterback.

It doesn't matter why there was no receiver in sight. There wasn't one - and Brady was inside the tackle box - and he was under pressure.

Who's to say it would have altered outcome anyway? Psychic refs? he he he

12 posted on 02/05/2012 7:52:50 PM PST by Principled
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To: BenLurkin
If there's no receiver, the QB's in the pocket, and the QB threw the ball under pressure (but wasn't hit as he threw) they make the call. You can't expect the referee to know what people are thinking.

It's the correct call unlike the interference call they didn't make later in the game. Chris Collinsworth tried to chock it up to seeing the play in "real time" vs. reply. Anyone who can't make that call in real time shouldn't be reffing in the NFL.

13 posted on 02/05/2012 8:07:20 PM PST by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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To: Principled

Intentional Grounding of Forward Pass

Intentional grounding of a forward pass is a foul: loss of down and 10 yards from previous spot if passer is in the field of play or loss of down at the spot of the foul if it occurs more than 10 yards behind the line or safety if passer is in his own end zone when ball is released.

Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.

Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, while out of the pocket and facing an imminent loss of yardage, throws a pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including if the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or end line).


14 posted on 02/05/2012 8:09:18 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: MacMattico
My brother in law disagrees with me only because I am female.

Really?

:=P

15 posted on 02/05/2012 8:12:52 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: FlyVet

:) Don’t get me started!


16 posted on 02/05/2012 8:31:08 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: SeekAndFind

The end of the game was a trial by fire for this long-time Giants fan. Down by two points, with 57 seconds left and 2nd and goal from the six, the right call was to run two plays, make New England use their last time out, and attempt a game-winning field goal that, from that range, is just a glorified extra-point, which has a 99% probability of success.

Bill Belichick, wise coach that he is, was aware of the statistics, and told his defense to lie down and let the Giants score. Tom Coughlin, a bit older than Belichick, but also quite wise, told his team to keep the ball from crossing the goal line, to set up the potentially easy game-winning field goal.

Ahmad Bradshaw, hard-running halfback for the Giants, was aware of the situation, and tried valiantly to stop at the one yard-line, but he was unable to do so. The Giants scored the go-ahead touchdown, but gave the Patriots a real shot to come back with just under a minute to play, and one time out remaining. The fact that a few passes were dropped in the final minute, and a last-ditch hail Mary hit the ground after a few Patriots had a shot at it only proves what Coughlin had told his team beforehand. Don’t score! Had New England managed to come back, it would have been a totally avoidable scenario that had been undone by a player’s failure to heed his coach’s admonition.


17 posted on 02/05/2012 8:40:52 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (How bad would an Obama II administration be, without the constraints of re-election?)
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To: SeekAndFind

YES THE NEW JERSEY GIANTS WON....!!!!

Not a total sucess as Brady still breathing (I’m a JETS FAN)


18 posted on 02/05/2012 8:44:53 PM PST by njslim
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To: paintriot
Newt called it for the Giants yesterday.

But Vice President Biden called it almost 3 weeks ago.

P

19 posted on 02/05/2012 9:01:16 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

I’m sure he is happy someone is listening to him.


20 posted on 02/05/2012 9:07:18 PM PST by paintriot (Newt 2012 & 2016 Thinking long term!)
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