To: Kansas58
Clearly, Congress DID legislate citizenship at birth, by statute, several times! I say again, if someone is a citizen only because of a law passed by Congress, they must be considered naturalized, for that is the only power Congress has, to define a rule for naturalization. Nothing about the rule need say they must file papers or take tests. It can just be by the "rule", and whatever criteria the rule sets. But that's not natural born.
I'm still waiting for the citation to what section of the Constitution delegates power to the Congress to define natural born.
Even the 1790 law which conferred citizenship on the children of citizens born outside the jurisdiction of the US only said they "shall be considered as natural born Citizens", not that they shall be natural born citizens.
665 posted on
02/04/2012 11:44:20 PM PST by
El Gato
("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
To: El Gato
You have absolutely no contemporary legal authority in agreement with you.
You have absolutely no member of Congress in agreement with you. You have no Conservative leaders, of any note, in agreement with you. Mark Levin, one of the greatest Conservative leaders of our time, who is involved with the Landmark Legal Foundation and takes several Conservative issues to Court, won't touch this issue. Jay Sekulow, another Conservative Attorney who has won many Conservative battles, in Court, won't touch this issue. They won't touch it because they know you are wrong on the law. Again, when a person desires to show citizenship or prove citizenship, a country must first define who had birthright citizenship and who does not have such birthright citizenship.
A Constitutional provision granting “Naturalization” regulation rules to Congress would, as a matter of simple logic and law, REQUIRE that Congress determines who had Birthright Citizenship, and who did not, thus requiring Naturalization.
“Natural Born Citizens” means “Citizen at Birth” -— It has ALWAYS meant the same thing, CITIZEN AT BIRTH!
However, the rules and regs and legislation, to obtain such Birthright Citizenship, have changed several times, by Constitutionally appropriate LEGISLATION.
Legislation trumps Common Law.
The Courts defaulted to Common Law and Natural Law and Vattel when there was no other guidance on the issue.
Now there is other guidance, from Congress and from the 14th Amendment.
You will never, ever, ever win this argument, it is a waste of time and resources and might actually help Obama.
Yes, Obama is secretive, he has not released: tax records, medical records, college records, personal writings, law license issues, etc. Also, the BC issues are still muddy, in my mind.
However, Obama is using the Birthers to make a joke out of anyone who has serious, important questions about Obama’s past and Obama’s lies about his past.
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