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To: Smokin' Joe
Fishing, farming, and logging aren't fundamental Rights.

You missed the point. It does not matter what the reason is, when they come for someone for something and get away with it, they will come for someone else for some other reason.

And yes, commercial fishermen took the US to SCOTUS over the issue of Rights. Are Rights equally applied to all Americans? No, they said. (WASHINGTON v. FISHING VESSEL ASSN., 443 U.S. 658 (1979))

And according to SCOTUS, “You have mere privileges which can be revoked at any given time, only Treaty Indians have Rights guaranteed by the Constitution, (and yours have been revoked).” - repeated in three separate cases.

So religion as a Right, like all the others, are illusions, and can be revoked, unless you practice a Treaty tribal religion which is guaranteed as a Right.

Further, many Catholic priests (and other denomination leaders) at the time denounced commercial fishermen from the pulpit as rapists, worse than child molesters, and evil people who need to be imprisoned.

What goes around, comes around.

61 posted on 02/01/2012 10:48:41 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF
Well, I missed that denunciation.

I grew up in a predominantly Catholic area where the Priest would annually bless the fleet, (if not a Bishop), and I have held a commercial fishing license.

But if you would show me where fishing is mentioned in the Constitution and /or Bill of Rights, I'd be grateful, 'cause I missed that, too.

As for Rights being taken away, No. A right can never be taken away, it continues to exist even if you don't practice it, but you might have to fight for the ability to do so after you have forsaken it, or fight against a usurpation of that right.

But all in all, this isn't about fishing, it's a power struggle, between the secular government and the Church.

Ask me to choose between God and the Government, and the Government loses every time. I'll only be here a short while, and there forever after. (Now you see why the war on religion).

Requiring Catholic Hospitals to provide abortion services won't hunt, and your next trip to an ER may be longer as a result, depending on where you live.

67 posted on 02/01/2012 2:23:16 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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