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Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church (Some idiots wanted "change" so they got it)
cbs ^ | 1/30/2012 | By Brian Montopoli

Posted on 01/30/2012 3:24:20 PM PST by tobyhill

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To: tobyhill
BTW, Catholics are NOT idiots!

Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church (Some idiots wanted "change" so they got it)
Has Obama Lost the Catholic Left?

Obama won the overall religious vote, 52 percent to 46 percent, reversing President George W. Bush’s 51 percent to 48 percent “values voter” victory over Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry in 2004. Obama also won the Catholic vote, persuaded young evangelical voters to choose him and began to squeeze shut the so-called “God gap” yawning between religious Democrats and Republicans during the Bush era.

How will the roughly 9.1 million evangelical Christians who voted for Obama vote in the next election? Will Obama's actions compel the 31.2 million evangelicals who didn't vote in the 2008 election to vote next time?

Obama Receives 77% of Jewish Vote-- More Than Kerry
White US Catholics move toward GOP, Hispanic Catholics toward Democrats
Among Catholics, Obama job approval rating decreases to 50 percent

41 posted on 01/30/2012 6:37:34 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: thomas16
Newt Gingrich: Why I Became Catholic
42 posted on 01/30/2012 6:52:03 PM PST by TaxPayer2000
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To: NotSoFreeStater

If Lord Baltimore had known how Maryland was going to turn out, he would have given it back to the indians.


43 posted on 01/30/2012 9:30:31 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: thomas16
As several have pointed out, you are in error on Gingrich. He converted to Catholicism some time ago.

I am a Catholic and I would prefer Santorum. Nonetheless, Santorum does not seem to be getting any serious traction. We cannot keep dividing conservative votes while Romney wins delegates and delegations by mere pluralities. The first job this year is defeating Romney. THEN and only then do we defeat Obozo. There is no point in electing Romney to defeat Obozo. We won't get a chance to elect Santorum over Obozo if he cannot be nominated. If I had to vote today, I would vote for Gingrich. If Santorum has a legitimate shot in Illinois by primary day in March, I'll vote for him. It is my hope that Santorum will make that unnecessary by following Perry's and Cain's example.

This is not an ideal situation but it is what it is.

Now, most importantly, this website is most certainly NOT anti-Catholic. JimRob is apparently an Evangelical Christian. His patience with intramural Catholic squabbling here has been truly legendary. His moderators enforce a reasonable degree of civility on everyone, Catholic and non-Catholic alike and do not take sides. I don't agree with every decision but neither does anyone else. When the heat of combat has faded, most of us conclude that the decisions are fair if not perfect.

Newt's marital track record is obviously one that leaves much to be desired. I won't let it cause Romney's nomination and the resultant demise of the GOP and of our nation.

BTW, in this context, the use of the term WASP is not one that I would welcome. White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. I suspect that few folks here object to white and that you don't either. Anglo-Saxon. I am 1/4 English and have a Saxon surname. My paternal grandfather arrived here in the US as an Anglican. Was that a crime? He converted to Catholicism more than one hundred years ago. Is that a problem? I suspect not. My other grandfather arrived here as a Scots-Irish Presbyterian Protestant. Was that a crime? He also converted to Catholicism more than one hundred years ago. Was that a problem?

We have enough challenges facing all of us as conservatives in this movement and in this society without trying to re-fight the Thirty Years War (which, incidentally, we lost and should get over it). I identify as Irish Catholic more than any other ancestry because my Irish Catholic grandmother was also one of my closest pals when I was a kid and was my only living grandparent. Does that mean that I must dislike Protestants for being Protestants? Puhleeze. Many fine FReepers are Protestants. Some fine FReepers are Mormons. Still other fine FReepers are Jews and some fine FReepers have no faith at all but are conservative nonetheless.

I am not happy with some who feel that any time Catholicism is mentioned it is somehow mandatory to make snarky remarks. But that gun fires both ways and I am also not happy with some fellow Catholics who feel compelled to insult Protestants at every opportunity. We aren't winning our political battles without Protestants and they aren't winning their political battles without us.

Also, there is very little anti-Mormonism around here. If Catholics and Protestants voted as regularly conservative as Mormons, the war would be won already. I have no use for Romney because he is a hopeless elitist liberal not because he is Mormon. If he were a better Mormon, he would be a better and more acceptable candidate. Pro-abortion, pro-homosexuality and gun grabber and tax hiker does not translate to Mormon by the standards of any Mormon I have ever known. If some Mormons vote for Romney as some Catholics voted for JFK, that would be the same sort of shame but understandable.

If the status remains quo, I will vote for Gingrich because he is not Romney and religion has nothing whatsoever to do with it.

44 posted on 01/30/2012 10:53:14 PM PST by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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To: Salvation

ping to#22


45 posted on 01/31/2012 5:44:26 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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