Posted on 01/29/2012 3:14:41 PM PST by Hunton Peck
Oooooooh.
A previous Freeper had said that, but I thought he was being facetious. If that’s ture, I guess the boyfriend didn’t need to accidentally find any texts or emails.
Story identifies him as “a single former marine.”
Yes. Still a Marine Reservist, apparently (not that I would presume to endorse the reference to any Marine as “former”, mind you), and one of the reporters embedded with the troops in 2003.
Maybe you *think* when a lady says no she means maybe.
If you perpetuate these lies you are part of the problem.
Ah, thanks. I missed the “single”, or thought it meant as opposed to multiple, or something...
Often it depends on how she says "no". Sometimes "no" means "not yet". Guys historically have had the burden of dealing with women's emotional chaos and making some sort of guess as to how an initiative would be received. If she pulls a weapon, that generally considered a definite "no", although some girls might consider it foreplay. I tried to stay away from those, way back when.
We don't generally get engraved invitations telling us to show up at her apartment at 8pm Friday with a box of condoms. Or maybe that's how it's done these days -- it's been many years since I was dealing with the dating game.
The old saying “Marry in haste, repent at leisure,” could also apply to careless fornication.
What I posted way above were the “old rules”.
The “new rules” end like this:
When a lady says, “yes”, she means “maybe...until the statute of limitations has run out.”
Ha. I tripped on that too. A single guy instead of two or three.
Anyhow it sounds to me like Kelly is getting jobbed here big-time.
Have it happen enough times, and society will need to adopt a new rule about rape: "If she doesn't report it within an hour of the occurrence, consent will be assumed in the absence of very convincing physical evidence to the contrary".
Maybe it’s just me, but it really irks me that she can drag his reputation through the dirt for what may well turn out to be baseless charges (and it sure sounds like it) yet she is “nameless”.... yea that’s fair ...
I doubt that most prosecutors even bother to look for that "proverbial book" to throw. False accusation of rape is apparently considered to be a very low priority crime. Crystal Gail Mangum did not serve one minute in jail for falsely accusing the Duke lacrosse players, though she was obviously guilty.
In most of the false rape accusation cases that I have read about, charges against the man are dropped after he spends a fortune in legal fees and has his reputation permanently tarnished, while the false accuser receives a little reprimand from the judge and perhaps some court-ordered therapy.
On those apparently rare occasions when a false accuser is actually tried and convicted, the sentences I have read about are far shorter than those typically received by convicted rapists. DOJ data from 1992 shows the average sentence for rape to be almost ten years, with average time actually served at about 5 1/2 years. If my cursory Google searches can be relied upon, the average sentence for false accusation of rape is about a year, and community service seems to be regarded as an adequate substitute for jail time.
My impressions and numbers may be wrong, but as usual with politically incorrect subject matter, it is difficult to find good quality data.
Us gals, historically, have had the burden of dealing with men's emotional advances. A friendly smile is interpreted as "she wants me" or "she really wants me" while it's just a smile or possibly a charitable gesture.
When a woman says no she means it. If you hang out with emotional basket cases - well what do you expect? I personally wouldn't hang out with a guy who doesn't understand the language.
More precisely, when YOU say no, you mean it. The reason why men tend to ask again later after being given one "no" is because a statistically-significant percentage of women change their minds and say "yes".
Perhaps initially she said "no" because she just was in a bad mood. Perhaps she said "no" because she's really more interested in some other guy at the moment. Most guys will try again at least once, after a bit of time.
Some women get annoyed when guys ask again after an initial "no". Perhaps more women may get unhappy if the norm shifts to "no means we're done, move on, and never, ever ask her again".
Then again, as I've said, I've been out of the dating scene for more years than I like admitting to.
I think we are both lucky to be out of the dating scene. Texting on a date is bad enough but the worst is the baseball hat worn during dinner!
Maybe it’s not the worst that could happen on a date but it’s pretty bad. My grandmother would banish anyone who didn’t know enough to remove their hat indoors.
If I considered "no means no forever", then things never would have happened. People change their minds about what they decide they're looking for.
I think Kobe was a better analogy - it appears that - rough unhygienic sex or not - she was happy to be Kobe's new GF - until she figured out she wasn't - then it was rape.
I used to have two standing rules for my daughters' boyfriends upon coming over to the house for dinner:
1) you may not call either my wife or me by our first names. We are Mrs. and Mr. _____.
2) If you do not remove your baseball cap before coming to the table, you are out of the game...and once out of the game your cannot return.
LOL. I agree. No means no at that time. Next week, next month might be a different story.
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