Posted on 01/27/2012 7:27:18 PM PST by Steelfish
The GOP Empire Strikes Back At Gingrich
By Dan Balz January 27
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The revenge of the Republican establishment is a sight to behold. From one corner to another, those who have tangled with Newt Gingrich, who feel aggrieved toward Newt Gingrich or who fear Newt Gingrich have amassed to stop him. They know how much harder it will be to do so if the former House speaker wins Florida on Tuesday.
The quintessential example of establishment angst came Thursday from Bob Dole, the former Senate majority leader and 1996 Republican presidential nominee. Hours before Thursday’s GOP debate, he released a letter — circulated by Mitt Romney’s campaign — attacking Gingrich and pleading with Republican voters not to make him the party’s nominee. There is much rich history behind that letter.
Dole is just one voice in a chorus of critics who have spoken out. Gingrich’s victory in South Carolina just a week ago sent a shudder through the ranks of elected officials and others who make up the establishment and the conservative elite. Fear of Newt has displaced lack of love for Romney as the dominant emotion among these Republicans.
In recent days, the group has included former House majority leader Tom Delay (R-Tex.) and the caustic Ann Coulter. A trio of House members shadow Gingrich’s events. Others who are prominent in the conservative movement have joined ex-colleagues of Gingrich to sound the alarms.
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So, to be a member in good standing of YOUR conservative club, I must love ALL who have an “R” behind their name no matter what they’ve done.
Here’s an idea, donate to Tom “Dale Dribble” Delay’s defense fund. I’m sure he really needs the money since he sold his bug sprayer. And while you’re at it, donate to Romney’s campaign. There’s an “R” after his name, too.
Then after you’ve done this, leave me the hell alone. I don’t have time to argue with you because I’m too busy slandering that wonderful, CLEAN, Tom Delay. In fact, don’t waste your time responding to this post ‘cause I won’t see it. I’m doing dirt research on “YOU KNOW WHO” for Ronnie Earl. We’re best friends!
I won’t be donating to Romney’s campaign because you have already sent him donations.
You say “I’m doing dirt research on “YOU KNOW WHO” for Ronnie Earl. We’re best friends!”
That’s what I thought.
And I don’t care if you see when I respond to your bull**** posts anyway; at least others on the forum see when somebody responds to your slanderous lies about a good conservative.
See Post #60.
Some people have selective beliefs. They believe what they want to believe. When the evidence is right in front of them they say “I don’t believe it” and call you stupid for giving facts and attack you for your screen name. LOL. You’d think I’m talking about a liberal. Sadly, you know I’m talking about a conservative. And I have no doubt he is truly a conservative. But he’s blind to the corruption on the GOP side of the aisle like Delay who are ramming Romney down everyone’s throat.
I remember when Clinton was first running and a reporter told a woman in Little Rock that Clinton had admitted to the affair with Jennifer Flowers. Her response was “I still don’t believe it”. Sad there are people on our side who are playing with the same kind of deck.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/sep/14/20050914-120153-3878r/?page=all
As I recall, things didn’t quite work out for the Empire.
Whatever. That was seven years ago, wartime, and the level of spending that the Bush-Cheney Administration wanted was going to be funded by Congress no matter what level of spending the House Majority Whip personally wanted. What’s the guy to do, run counter to the entire GOP political establishment in wartime and vote with Ron Paul, or be a team player?
The spending that the Bush Administration engaged in is irrelevant to the fact that Tom DeLay has been subjected to a blatantly political selective prosecution for moving money to help get republicans elected and participating in redistricting battles, things that democrats have done continually to maintain their majorities necessary to institute socialism gradually over a period of a hundred years.
“Whatever”
Boy, that’s one debate trick I learned always comes from someone that just can’t admit they were wrong. Move the goalpost! Liberals are schooled in that method.
Regardless of the merits or the issue of spending, the fact that Delay did indeed say it just proves you were wrong. No big deal.
Just admit it and then discuss the context. But, frankly, there is always fat in government to cut. Delay, like so many, who say there isn’t is so more concerned with process than reality. They live in vaunted worlds of this program versus that program and this must be funded and never changed versus this needs to be reformed ad nauseum.
Here’s your debate trick. Accuse your opponent of exactly what you did - moving the goalpost. You’ve are the one who changed the question up for discussion!
The original debate was about false accusations leveled by a Tom DeLay hater, accusing Majority Whip Delay of being a crook, and he is not. There was no personal profiteering by Tom DeLay. I know, I know, some people claim accepting a paycheck, pension plan, travel and buying a house to live in while in session by to be corruption, but please let’s not go there.
Changing the question to whether or not Tom DeLay should even have participated in the only system that exists in Washington, and whether or not he as a republican should have opposed the Bush-Cheney administration of our big-government during the middle-east wars and economic recovery of the post 911 time period is another question entirely.
If you go back to the original start of the the thread I simply corrected in sequence the lies of Terry Mross, and then later KantianBurke who posted a few links to mainstream media “news” stories in his attempt to bolster the Mross smears.
Oh, yes, the ad hominem fallacy. Call your a opponent a liberal. That’s really helps prove you case. Not!
No, two people posted a factoid about Delay on this thread and you basically called them liars. I showed you an article where the quote came from and you moved the goalpost.
So, did Delay say “there is no fat left to cut” or didn’t he? The answer is “yes, he did”.
See how simple that is?
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