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And We Should Hate Newt Gingrich for This?
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/26/and-we-should-hate-newt-gingrich-for-this/ ^ | 1-26-2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 01/27/2012 5:31:23 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather

All the members of the Republican Party who have been complicit and collaborative in the destruction of our nation in the past few decades always talking about smaller government while never fighting against the tide of creeping socialism have now come out against Newt Gingrich.

Yesterday, at National Review, Elliot Abrams attacked Newt Gingrich for attacking Ronald Reagan from the right.

Today, it is Bob Dole’s turn.

Bob Dole, you will remember from George Stephanoupolos’s memoir of his time in Clinton’s White House, totally cut the legs out from under Newt Gingrich and House Republicans during the government shut down. According to the Democrats, they were within twenty-four hours of caving to the House Republicans’ demands, but Bob Dole surprised them all by caving first.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bobdole; dole; establishment; gingrich; hate; newt; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: sheikdetailfeather

One thing is beoming obvious. Newt isn’t a Washington ‘insider.’

This will serve him well in the general election.

Note to insiders: keep pushing him out.


61 posted on 01/27/2012 7:59:03 AM PST by Paraclete
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To: Lady Lucky
Now I’m done because I won’t listen to it again just to post verbatim. You want to be fair, go listen and point out where I am wrong. You can’t.

You still didn't go read comments in any of the threads I directed you to to see others' take on this same transcript, did you? It shows.

62 posted on 01/27/2012 8:01:36 AM PST by CAluvdubya (My preferred taglines are not in the running...)
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To: TheCornerOffice; Blackyce

Thank you! Rush collected all the “impeccable source” manure, loaded it into the spreader and covered the enormous field of his audience with anti-Gingrich crap.

It’s what he does not say that is most telling. He does not say anything in Newt’s defense.


63 posted on 01/27/2012 8:05:08 AM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: CAluvdubya

I did read them, and obviously you are not prepared to be fair and listen to Rush again and attempt to refute what I said. So I’ll just bid you good day.


64 posted on 01/27/2012 8:08:03 AM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: Lady Lucky
Now, in Rush's defense, I must say that he has always been very consistent in defending conservative ideas, perhaps more than he has defended individuals. He may be just trying to walk a fine line of avoiding an endorsement for whatever reasons.

But it did seem that while acknowledging the orchestrated attempt of many to bury Newt with accusations, he didn't do enough to refute them. Perhaps after more research and show prep, he'll follow up today with a different view on it... hoping that's the case.
65 posted on 01/27/2012 8:21:27 AM PST by TheCornerOffice
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To: Lady Lucky

This was my take also. Sounds like some posters had a few too many while they listened to him.


66 posted on 01/27/2012 8:23:04 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Lady Lucky

Here is my letter to Mr. Santorum. I sent it to 3 different addresses.

I pray that it does not fall on deaf ears : |

“”Please sir, I ask you to consider the future of our nation.

I have no doubt Mr. Santorum, of your deep love for this great nation, but I ask you please, to consider it’s future. We are witness sir, to the battle, not only for the presidency of these United States, but for the control of the Republican party, between the established Republican elite, (who got us INTO this mess), and the Tea Party Americans who powered the groundswell of REAL change in 2010. That change has been fought ruthlessly by the establishment Republicans ever since, and now we watch as they advance THEIR choice for president in Mr. Mitt Romney.

I believe very strongly that there is a future for you sir, at the national level, but I believe just as strongly that this year, is not the year. Please, for the nation, consider bowing from the race; as Governor Perry did; and begin immediately to work with Speaker Gingrich in order to help the American people remind both the media, and the Republican elite that WE will choose our representatives, and that they serve US.

There is no margin for error in this endeavor, sir. We must repeat the message sent from the patriots in South Carolina to the enemies of our freedom. We must send it again in Florida. I am genuinely fearful, that if we do not defeat the Left AND the republican elite, soundly and now, that there will be no future for any of us who love the ideals that this great nation was founded upon.

Please. Meet with Speaker Gingrich now, and forge a plan together, to defeat Mr. Romney. For America and for all of our futures. Both you and Speaker Gingrich share a love for this great nation, and for it’s Founders, and know that they were men with wide ranging viewpoints and beliefs, but remember that they never allowed their differences to put their common goal at risk.

Thank you for listening, and I pray that you will give my words serious thought.

May God bless and keep you, and may He give each of us the strength, the wisdom and the courage, to see this through.””

May God give us strength.
Tatt


67 posted on 01/27/2012 8:29:31 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Lady Lucky; sheikdetailfeather
"More disgusting is that Rush Limbaugh is anti-Newt. He affects to be “shocked” at the information he’s hearing about Newt, and says Nancy Reagan wouldn’t have said what she did, had she known."

More disgusting is your BS "spin". Rush isn't supporting anyone, as usual and has plainly said many times that he will support whoever our nominee is because any one of them is better than what's sitting in the WH right now.

He is VERY careful to try and bring out "everything that's out there", pro and con, so that we can make up our OWN minds.

34posted on Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:21:11 PM by Jim Robinson

"Long read, but Rush Limbaugh defends Newt!!"

Coordinated Avalanche Against Newt Doesn't Match My Memory of Reagan Years January 26, 2012

[................]

RUSH: Now, back to this Newt stuff. I got a note from Jeffrey Lord. Jeffrey Lord writes for the American Spectator, which is Bob Tyrrell's bunch. Bob Tyrrell has a devastating piece: Newt is Bill Clinton, only worse! Oh, it's devastating. This Elliott Abrams piece is devastating. And they all happen the same day.

So Jeffrey Lord says: Wait a minute now, Nancy Reagan, 1985, Goldwater Institute, after the Reagan era -- and Jeff Lord says, "Believe me, if Nancy Reagan thought for a nanosecond that Newt was anti-Reagan, she would never have been on the same platform with him." I can vouch for that. I've never seen a more protective wife of anybody than Nancy Reagan. If you in your life said one thing against Ronald Reagan, you were gone. You were banished. You were never allowed to be in the same room.

Talk to the people who knew them both and worked with them, and they'll confirm that. So Jeff Lord says (paraphrased), "Well, if all this that we're hearing yesterday's true, what the hell's Nancy Reagan doing out there giving Newt basically a huge award?" She said, "The dramatic movement of 1995," that was going on then, "is an outgrowth of a much earlier crusade that goes back half a century. Barry Goldwater handed the torch to Ronnie," her husband, "and in turn Ronnie turned the torch over to Newt and the Republican members of Congress to keep that dream alive."

That's Nancy Reagan in 1985. Now, Jeff Lord worked in the Reagan White House.

He's posted that Elliott Abrams never said a word to him at the time about Newt, not one. And Jeff says, "Suffice to say the political office of the Reagan White House made it our job to defend Reagan from Republican members of Congress. I never heard any criticism of Newt, either, firsthand from Elliott or secondhand from anybody else," and then he posts his take on all - it is at American Spectator.

So what do we have here? Tyrrell says that Newt Gingrich is Bill Clinton without Clinton's charm. This is a long list of people here who have just come out both barrels blazing on the same day, or within close proximity of the same day: Elliott Abrams, Bob Tyrrell, Drudge, Brit Hume of Fox News, Dr. Krauthammer, the New York Sun, the National Review, Vin Weber.

........ And then there's this. This is a post at The Corner, National Review Online. "Operation Chaos in Reverse." It's actually a front-page Washington Post story. "Liberal Groups Join in Florida Ad War Against Romney -- Newt Gingrich isn't the only one trying to beat Romney in Florida.

"Several liberal groups are funding new ad campaigns in Florida, targeting the vulnerable GOP presidential candidate, part of an unusually bold effort by Democrat supporters to bolster Obama's chances in November by influencing the Republican primaries." So the Democrats are doing Operation Chaos here in Florida. The unions are running anti-Romney ads, big time, all over the state. This is an expensive media market. There are ten sizeable, significant media markets in the state of Florida. You need a lot of money to saturate this state with TV ads. And these pro-Obama people are coming in. You've got a $1 million ad buy from the American Federation of State County, Municipal, Employees. That's the nation's largest public employee union. They're focusing on Romney's history as head of Bain Capital.

SEIU and Priorities USA Action, a pro-Obama super PAC, have also jointly launched a Spanish-language radio campaign in Florida accusing Romney of having two faces, and they're even... Reuters has a hit piece on Marco Rubio coming tomorrow. I mean, folks, everybody involved in politics with a vested interest has opened both barrels of the shotgun and are firing at everybody. Every Republican of note and of stature is under a full-fledged assault in this state today. If you didn't know better after this Reuters piece, you would think that Marco Rubio contributed money to Adolf Hitler's campaign. That's how bad this hit piece is. ......

........Where's the evidence that anybody in our party's got the guts to go after Obama the way they're going after Newt here, the way they've gone after Perry, the way some of them have gone after Romney, where's the evidence? We don't have the evidence. We have to wait and see. And I'll bet you a bunch of people in this audience, if you ask 'em to make a bet, they would bet the Republican Party doesn't have the guts to go after Democrats the way they're going after themselves. I'll just bet you. ......

.....The stuff's out there. Last night was the first time, and I was shocked, 'cause I know everything, and I remember everything, and I had never heard that stuff before. ......

....Back to the audio sound bites. Nancy Reagan in Phoenix, the Goldwater Institute dinner in 1995. Number 26, 27, and 28.

NANCY: The dramatic movement of 1995 is an outgrowth of a much earlier crusade that goes back half a century. Barry Goldwater handed the torch to Ronnie, and in turn Ronnie turned that torch over to Newt and the Republican members of Congress to keep that dream alive.

RUSH: Ronnie turned the torch over to Newt and the Republican members of Congress. Nancy Reagan. Now, she obviously didn't know that Newt had been out there saying, "The era of Reagan was over" in 1988. If she'd-a known that she wouldn't have said this. ......

....Sometimes I'm hesitant to mention bloggers 'cause I don't like getting e-mails, "That blogger, he's a phony, he's a thief, that was mine first, everybody steals." But I've got a blog here, guy named Dan Riehl. He claims that the video of Newt bashing Reagan is bogus, this 1988 audio that we played of Newt saying that Reagan's wrong.

Here's the little blog post. "There's a short excerpt of a 1988 C-SPAN video purportedly showing Newt Gingrich bashing Reagan when talking about how Bush, Sr. should run" his campaign, should not run as more Reagan, but do something new. Riehl writes, "As I suspected, it's edited to give a false impression. What you don't see is immediately after when Gingrich praises Reaganism and the Reagan platform. If you can't watch it all, it begins at about 2:30 in to confirm it's the same segment. It's the minute or two afterward you also need to hear to understand that Newt wasn't bashing Reagan at all. He was merely saying, Bush isn't Reagan and the GOP needs something new to sell."

So I knew something like this was gonna happen. It's not really that it's been doctored, but that it has been selectively chosen from. So I sent it up to Cookie 'cause I can't listen to it, I didn't have the time to listen it. Cookie said, "Look, this thing is an hour long. I'm sure he praises Reagan at some point or another, but I wouldn't say it's doctored." So my expert says it's not doctored. The blogger says it's been selectively edited or chosen. So I just wanted to get it out there. ....."

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Caller Accuses Host of Backing "Socialist" Romney January 26, 2012

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Here is Jed in Boise, Idaho. Great to have you on the program, sir. Hello. .....

CALLER: What I called about is I hear you and a lot of the other conservative talk radio hosts supporting Mitt Romney, yet we all know that he's a socialist and nobody ever pushes that forward. .....

RUSH: I'm getting worn out! I got Romney calling me wanting to come see me trying to get me to stop being so hard on him. ....

RUSH: You think I'm sitting here supporting Romney. I spent most of a full show last week analyzing what Newt did in a positive way as to why he was getting the applause. You're reading from some script here. You're talking to the wrong host.

RUSH: I'm not choosing anybody.

CALLER: No, sir. No, sir, Rush. I have heard you yourself say that if Romney wins the nomination, that you're going to vote for him. Okay? RUSH: Yeah?

CALLER: That is supporting him. That lends a credibility to a Republican-socialist agenda.

RUSH: I'm gonna vote for any Republican over Obama! So's everybody else.

CALLER: So what...? What makes a Republican socialist any better than Democrat socialist who is in office now?

RUSH: I don't think Romney is a socialist. ....

RUSH: All right. Who are you for? Okay, Romney's a socialist. Who are you for?

CALLER: I'm for any one of the other three. But if I'm voting in the primary, I'm gonna vote for Gingrich.

RUSH: Okay.

CALLER: But if any of the other three win, I'll vote for them because they're at least conservatives. ...."

68 posted on 01/27/2012 9:06:29 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Matchett-PI; sheikdetailfeather

There was no pro-and-con to Rush’s 42-minute trasharama, as detailed here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2838699/posts?page=57#57

Rush said nothing in defense of Newt. He made sure his audience heard every attack and he rebutted none of them. Go and listen for yourself, the link is there.


69 posted on 01/27/2012 9:16:07 AM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: Lady Lucky; sheikdetailfeather
"There was no pro-and-con.."

There WAS pro and con. You just wanted him to give his personal opinion on the pro and con. HE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ACCURATE INFORMATION at that time to even know who or what to believe. GET REAL!

70 posted on 01/27/2012 9:26:43 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Lady Lucky

You are listening to Rush rght now, correct? The man is totally proving you wrong!


71 posted on 01/27/2012 9:39:42 AM PST by CAluvdubya (My preferred taglines are not in the running...)
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To: CAluvdubya

No, I am not listening to him. His words on the 42-min video stand, and none of them stand for Newt. If he’s eating them today, good!


72 posted on 01/27/2012 10:02:04 AM PST by Lady Lucky (A tea party in name only is worse than no tea party at all.)
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To: Lady Lucky

Rush tried to assassinate Gingrich yesterday, and he got in our faces and mocked us as he was doing so.

This is now five years that Rush has tried to get Romney into the White House.

Rush and Drudge were the worst of a day that will go down in conservative history as ‘Bloody Thursday’ and the day that might become credited as the day that Romney won the nomination.


73 posted on 01/27/2012 1:03:24 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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