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1994 Report: Santorum supported individual mandate [rubbish!]
Washington Examiner ^ | 01/27/2012 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 01/27/2012 4:52:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Rick Santorum supported the idea of "requir[ing] individuals to buy health insurance" when he ran for U.S. Senate in 1994, according to a local feature article comparing the candidates during that election cycle.

"Santorum and [his opponent] would require individuals to buy health insurance rather than forcing employers to pay for employee benefits," The Morning Call (Pa.) reported in 1994. The Morning Call noted that Santorum had also called for a MediSave account and had opposed so-called "sin" taxes.

If true, the distinction between requiring people to buy health insurance and an individual mandate might be lost on the voters who have heard Santorum excoriate Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich for their support of the individual mandate -- which, in Gingrich's case, dates back to the early 90s.

The Morning Call does not quote Santorum making comments supportive of an individual mandate, or quote any other candidates in the piece, which attempts to summarize several candidates' positions on health care.


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KEYWORDS: healthcare; mandate; rinos; rinosantorum; santorum; santorum4mandates; santorum4romney; santroum4mandates
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To: FreeReign
From your link:
Both candidates responded to the League queries, which centered on health care, welfare reform and crime.

Santorum and Watkins both called for a "comprehensive restructuring" of health care. But they differed sharply on what elements should comprise a basic benefits package.

Watkins would include mental health services, long-term care, prescription drug coverage, dental services and preventive care such as immunizations. Santorum would not. Both reject abortion services.

Santorum and Watkins both oppose having businesses provide health care for their employees. Instead, they would require individuals to purchase insurance. Both oppose higher taxes on alcohol or tobacco to help pay for care.

The way I read this Santorum would leave it up to individuals to purchase their own insurance. He was advocating Medical/Health Savings accounts which puts the consumer in control of their health purchases. Not a government mandate.
81 posted on 01/27/2012 12:48:27 PM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: FreeReign

“...mandates (health care) by the federal government are wrong.” Rick Santorum Oct 30, 1994 senatorial debate.


82 posted on 01/27/2012 12:53:53 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jellybean

If you open this:

VIDEO: Pennsylvania Senatorial Debate Oct. 30, 1994

you get Zell Miller and Wolford???


83 posted on 01/27/2012 12:53:58 PM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: jwalsh07
You want the guy to prove a negative because Newt supported an individual mandate for a couple of decades?

I didn't initiate asking anybody to prove a negative. It was the other poster who claimed to prove their point by posting a video. I simply responded by saying that the video doesn't disprove the 1994 claim by the publication as they so claimed.

I then said that "one would have to find a copy of the Voters Guide published by The League of Woman Voters of Pennsylvania...or better yet, one would have to find the questionnaire that Santorum filled out for the League of Woman Voters...all circa 1994. "

Santorum is and always has been a medical savings account guy. That’s the simple truth of the matter.

I never said that he wasn't. And Newt has been for medical savings accounts. Are you claiming that Newt hasn't been for HSA's?

84 posted on 01/27/2012 1:00:23 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Like I said I don’t make false assertions on purpose. I know Newt favors HSA’s.


85 posted on 01/27/2012 1:03:34 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Linda Frances

I don’t know why the link isn’t working for you. Try this one: http://www.therightscoop.com/definitive-proof-santorum-did-not-support-the-individual-mandate/


86 posted on 01/27/2012 1:05:52 PM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: jwalsh07
You betcha. Your accusing Santorum of hypocrisy and support of individual federal mandate. Correct?

Accusing somebody who disagrees with you of lying is pathetic.

I don't lie.

Using your standard, then you lie.

87 posted on 01/27/2012 1:05:52 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

OK. I lied about you lying about Santorums position on the indivdual mandate. Which can only be true if your assertions that he is a hypocrite who supported the individual mandate are true. When you supply support for that I’ll apologize, if you don’t I ‘ll expect an apology. A check on our balls so to speak.


88 posted on 01/27/2012 1:13:15 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: FreeReign
It was the other poster who claimed to prove their point by posting a video. I simply responded by saying that the video doesn't disprove the 1994 claim by the publication as they so claimed.

Can you tell me where in the video Santorum supports individual mandates? http://www.therightscoop.com/definitive-proof-santorum-did-not-support-the-individual-mandate/

89 posted on 01/27/2012 1:16:39 PM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: jellybean

“I think what the role of the federal government is to provide opportunity for everyone to get what they want, to live their dreams and not to dictate what everybody should have,” he said.

And he explained why, which is even when certain things are mandated by the federal government, they often don’t work and added it simply is “not the American way of doing things.”

“You can’t force every American to do something they don’t want to do,” Santorum explained. “You can force people to be in Social Security, yet I think it’s only about 96 percent of Americans that are in Social Security. There are lots of mandates we put on people and they don’t obey. That’s wrong. That’s not the American way of doing things. The American way of doing things is getting people to live their dreams to make their choices.” Rick Santorum 1994 senatorial debate


90 posted on 01/27/2012 1:25:32 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
OK. I lied about you lying about Santorums position on the indivdual mandate. Which can only be true if your assertions that he is a hypocrite who supported the individual mandate are true. When you supply support for that I’ll apologize, if you don’t I ‘ll expect an apology. A check on our balls so to speak.

You are being ridiculous. Whether a person's assertion is true or not doesn't necessarily mean that the person is lying. Two people can disagree without either person lying. You even said so yourself in your post #85.

You use one standard for yourself and you use another standard for me. You should have the "balls" not to do that when you disagree agree with somebody.

As far as trying to get to the truth of the subject, and having the balls to do so, I specifically responded to another poster in post #66, long before you started posting to me. That person claimed that there were no direct quotes. To which I said the following...

And I then added...

It's you who should apologize for accusing me of lying. I don't lie.

91 posted on 01/27/2012 1:33:48 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: jwalsh07; FreeReign

How anyone can interpret that to mean individual mandates is beyond my level of comprehension. I only have a high school diploma though, so maybe I’m not educated enough to twist words around to mean something opposite than what was said.


92 posted on 01/27/2012 1:34:47 PM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: jellybean
Can you tell me where in the video Santorum supports individual mandates?

Can you tell me where I said that the video shows Santorum supporting individual mandates?

93 posted on 01/27/2012 1:36:12 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Thu Jan 26 2012 23:25:24 GMT-0500 (EST) · 2,053 of 2,327 FreeReign to All Santorum continued to lecture Newt tonight about health insurance mandates yet Santorum neglects to mention that he once supported health insurance mandates himself. Santorum Supported Individual Health Insurance Mandate...

Look I don't want to make an enemy of somebody I have agreed with 99% of the time here at FR for a decade but I won't stand idly by while you piss down my leg and tell me it is raining out either.

There is no evidence for your assertion and you should admit it and retract it. Life goes on.

94 posted on 01/27/2012 1:47:12 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: FreeReign

Your link does not support your comments about Santorum. In fact it contradicts them. The discussion over whether or not the health insurance system should be employer based or individuals be required to get it via direct purchase has nothing to do with a mandate to purchase.


95 posted on 01/27/2012 3:51:25 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
Your link does not support your comments about Santorum. In fact it contradicts them. The discussion over whether or not the health insurance system should be employer based or individuals be required to get it via direct purchase has nothing to do with a mandate to purchase.

No. The article says what it says. Requiring individuals to purchase insurance is a mandate to purchase insurance.


96 posted on 01/27/2012 4:04:34 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: jellybean

Steve Jobs never graduated from college either. He seemed to do OK.


97 posted on 01/27/2012 4:23:35 PM PST by jwalsh07
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