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1994 Report: Santorum supported individual mandate [rubbish!]
Washington Examiner ^ | 01/27/2012 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 01/27/2012 4:52:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Rick Santorum supported the idea of "requir[ing] individuals to buy health insurance" when he ran for U.S. Senate in 1994, according to a local feature article comparing the candidates during that election cycle.

"Santorum and [his opponent] would require individuals to buy health insurance rather than forcing employers to pay for employee benefits," The Morning Call (Pa.) reported in 1994. The Morning Call noted that Santorum had also called for a MediSave account and had opposed so-called "sin" taxes.

If true, the distinction between requiring people to buy health insurance and an individual mandate might be lost on the voters who have heard Santorum excoriate Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich for their support of the individual mandate -- which, in Gingrich's case, dates back to the early 90s.

The Morning Call does not quote Santorum making comments supportive of an individual mandate, or quote any other candidates in the piece, which attempts to summarize several candidates' positions on health care.


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KEYWORDS: healthcare; mandate; rinos; rinosantorum; santorum; santorum4mandates; santorum4romney; santroum4mandates
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To: jellybean

Santorum is not even in this debate. Where is your video of Santorum saying he wants a heathcare mandate?


62 posted on 01/27/2012 10:51:03 AM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are no quotes at all from Santorum in this article to support the allegations.


63 posted on 01/27/2012 10:55:07 AM PST by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: jellybean

51 posted on January 27, 2012 11:56:58 AM CST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!Ho)
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To: SeekAndFind
Upon further examination:
Erickson Was Wrong On Santorum And An Individual Health Care Mandate

VIDEO: Pennsylvania Senatorial Debate Oct. 30, 1994

52 posted on January 27, 2012 12:15:57 PM CST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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Santorum is not even in the debate you sited???


64 posted on 01/27/2012 10:55:23 AM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: jellybean
An article on April 7, 1994 in The Morning Call claims that the League of Women Voters of Pennsylvania queried the candidates Watkins and Santorum about healthcare. The article claims that both responded to the questionnaire by saying that they both support requiring individuals to purchase health insurance. The article goes on to claim that this information was published in the League of Women Voters, Voter Guide.

Link

Your video proves nothing. One would have to see the actual Voter's Guide, or better yet, one would have to see the actual questionnaire that Santorum filled out.

Have you seen either?

65 posted on 01/27/2012 10:57:35 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: LibFreeUSA
There are no quotes at all from Santorum in this article to support the allegations.

You are correct.

One would have to find a copy of the Voters Guide published by The League of Woman Voters of Pennsylvania. And better yet, one would have to find the questionnaire that Santorum filled out for the League of Woman Voters...all circa 1994.

66 posted on 01/27/2012 11:00:41 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: PolarCat
“But why bother with the individual mandate mechanism when all you want to do is force people to pay for something. Is the distinction that a tax forces people to pay the government whereas the individual mandate forces people to pay a private company?”

With Medicare for everyone, you would have a single-payer system like Canada. With an individual mandate, presumably, you could choose among private insurers as long as the policy met some minimum coverage standards (like auto liability insurance in most states).

“I would support a government healthcare program only if it were rotgut cheap ...”

You know that (a rotgut cheap government healthcare program) would be an oxymoron!

“Those wanting a higher level of medical coverage would pay a private insurance for it.”

That's the UK/Canada system, but with important differences in how publicly funded health care is delivered in the two countries. (In the UK, almost all hospital-based health professionals are NHS employees, but in Canada virtually all are private.)

67 posted on 01/27/2012 11:05:48 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: Retired Greyhound
“When things are done at the Federal level, we have no such option. The Federal mandate is unconstitutional. The state mandate, while shitty, is Massachusetts problem. The people of that state can vote it out if they don’t like it, or move.”

Yes, that's the genius of a federal system. States can experiment with programs, and others can learn from their successes and failures. It's obvious that RomneyCare has been a spectacular failure in Massachusetts, but as you said that's their problem not mine or yours. On the other hand, Wisconsin and several other states led the way in welfare reform back in the early 90s and their successes helped drive the federal reform in 1996.

68 posted on 01/27/2012 11:10:49 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: All

1994, eh? Yeah, well, back in those days, I still had a few misguided ideas, too.

So, like anyone who’s willing to learn, he flipped. Let us know if he flops, mm-kay? (I won’t hold my breath.)


69 posted on 01/27/2012 11:24:49 AM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Wolfie
I don’t support an individual mandate, but they need to couple that stand with a Federal law that allows healthcare providers to refuse to treat someone if they don’t have the means to pay. Telling hospitals you have to treat anyone and pass the costs on to the rest of us is nuts.

Good post.

It's worth noting that a health insurance mandate was a position once held by some conservatives to compensate for hospitals being required to treat patients who don't have insurance. It wasn't a means to fund government run health care like Obamacare.

Santorum has been disingenuous at best claiming that the Individual Mandate to purchase health insurance is in and of itself the core of Obamacare. The core of Obamacare is the forced take over of health care.

For the record, I'm against mandated health insurance and mandated health treatment. They are both unconstitutional.

Can anybody identify one candidate who is against unconstitutionally mandated health treatment?

I can't.

70 posted on 01/27/2012 11:30:33 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: matt1234

It is a ridiculous hit piece with no context or quotes. He fought against Hillary-care. Must be a sign that the liberals and Romney are not wanting Santorum to catch fire.


71 posted on 01/27/2012 12:01:37 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: jellybean

Thanks for the links. This destroys the allegation and exposes it for the lie that it is.


72 posted on 01/27/2012 12:08:00 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: Linda Frances
Santorum is not even in this debate. Where is your video of Santorum saying he wants a heathcare mandate?

What video are you talking about? The link in #52 goes to a C-Span video with Rick Santorum stating his position on individual mandates and proposing Medical Savings Accounts. C-Span identifies it as Pennsylvania Senatorial Debate. It doesn't look like a debate to me, but Rick Santorum is definitely there! Nowhere does he say he's for a heath care mandate.

73 posted on 01/27/2012 12:21:12 PM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: FresnoRobert
Thanks for the links. This destroys the allegation and exposes it for the lie that it is.

I also sent those links to Rush. I don't know if he used them, I was out for an hour or so. Someone up thread said Rush was refuting the Santorum was for individual mandates hit piece at the top of this thread, so maybe he did use them.

74 posted on 01/27/2012 12:26:25 PM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: FreeReign

What’s pissing you off? Lying about Santorums record or nobody buying the lies?


75 posted on 01/27/2012 12:29:30 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
What’s pissing you off? Lying about Santorums record or nobody buying the lies?

Acussing me of lying jwash?

You lie.

76 posted on 01/27/2012 12:32:04 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

You want the guy to prove a negative because Newt supported an individual mandate for a couple of decades? Santorum is and always has been a medical savings account guy. That’s the simple truth of the matter.


77 posted on 01/27/2012 12:34:58 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: FreeReign

You betcha. Your accusing Santorum of hypocrisy and support of individual federal mandate. Correct?


78 posted on 01/27/2012 12:37:48 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: FreeReign

OOT. I never lie here at FR. When I assert something about a candidates record I do it honestly and fairly to the best of my ability making sure to do my homework before I post it. Good, bad or indifferent. Of course everybody makes mistakes and if you did then I retract the lie thing. Did you make a mistake?


79 posted on 01/27/2012 12:42:42 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: FreeReign

I can name one. Santorum is one that has never supported government mandated healthcare and has fought consistently for the rights of the individual. I think the video JellyBean posted proves that. In 1994 he was for de-linking government control of healthcare. Mitt and Newt can’t say the same. I don’t know where Paul stood in the past.


80 posted on 01/27/2012 12:46:38 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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