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Obama to Catholic Church: “To Hell with You.”
Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh ^ | 1/26/2012 | Bishop David A. Zubik

Posted on 01/26/2012 11:24:21 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

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1 posted on 01/26/2012 11:24:24 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Its simple. Refuse. Disobey. General strike if fined or punished. The marxists will not change the death mandate for babies. Civil disobedience is the only active solution.


2 posted on 01/26/2012 11:29:12 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Teófilo; Cronos; wagglebee; dsc; Deo volente; MarkBsnr; Mad Dawg; ArrogantBustard; ...
Is this payback to the USCCB by Sebelius?

Commentary: Closing Ranks on Canon 915: Bishops Confirm that Sebelius Should Not Receive Communion

by LifeSiteNews.com
Mon Mar 30, 2009

Gov. Kathleen Sebelius received some good news last week when abortionist Dr. George Tiller was found not guilty of breaking state laws regulating late-term abortion. The relationship between Tiller and Sebelius would surely have played a role in her upcoming confirmation hearings had he been found guilty.

But Governor Sebelius got some bad news as well—something not noticed much in Catholic media or the secular press. The bishops of Washington, D.C., and Arlington, Virginia, confirmed publicly they would uphold the declaration of her ordinary, Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, stating that Governor Sebelius should not present herself for communion.

A spokeswoman for the Washington Archdiocese, Susan Gibbs, said Archbishop Donald Wuerl would expect Sebelius to follow Bishop Naumann’s request while in Washington. Joelle Santolla, spokeswoman for the Arlington Diocese, announced that Bishop Paul Loverde would expect the same while she was in Northern Virginia.

That Archbishop Wuerl and Bishop Loverde would back up Bishop Naumann in regard to the future Secretary of Health and Human Services is a significant development in the effort of some bishops to enforce Canon 915: "Those upon whom the penalty of excommunication or interdict has been imposed or declared, and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin, are not to be admitted to holy communion."

This will send the message to other bishops that if they choose to pronounce members of Congress from their dioceses unfit for communion, their authority will be respected in D.C. and across the Potomac in Virginia. The ramifications are enormous: For example, if Sean Cardinal O’Malley of Boston stated publicly that Sen. John Kerry was in violation of Canon 915, he would not have been able to receive communion at Pope Benedict XVI’s Mass in Washington, D.C., a year ago. Rep. Nancy Pelosi would not have been able to celebrate her elevation to speaker of the House with a special Mass at Trinity College, if Archbishop Neiderhauer had found her wanting according to the standard of Canon 915.

Some will argue that neither Archbishop Wuerl nor Bishop Loverde will attempt, through their priests, to deny Governor Sebelius communion. But this misses the point, and the significance, of how the combined statements of Bishops Naumann, Wuerl, and Loverde have created a new and more vulnerable situation for the pro-abortion Catholic members of Congress. As Archbishop Raymond Burke has explained, Bishop Naumann did not impose a "sanction" on Governor Sebelius; Bishop Naumann asked Sebelius, not the clergy, to apply Canon 915 to herself.

But if Sebelius were to receive communion in D.C. or Northern Virginia, it would likely generate a news story that would mushroom quickly, involving the priest who administered communion and his bishop. This is not news coverage that Sebelius, or the Obama administration, would want to deal with.

No doubt there are priests in both dioceses who would have little compunction about giving communion to pro-abortion Catholic politicians, but whether they want to get into a media-generated spat with their bishop over a high-profile politician is another matter.

A final point: Archbishop Wuerl and Bishop Loverde’s collegial response to Bishop Naumann destabilizes the relationship between pro-abortion Catholic politicians and their bishops back home. The question will arise as to why Governor Sebelius should be the only politician in Washington who has been called to account under Canon 915. What about the dozens of others in Congress who have a 100 percent pro-abortion voting record? What about Vice-President Joe Biden himself?

Will other bishops seize this opportunity to apply Canon 915 to politicians in their dioceses, knowing that Archbishop Wuerl and Bishop Loverde will back them up? Given the determination of the Obama administration and the Congress to roll back all restrictions on abortion, I wouldn’t be surprised.

3 posted on 01/26/2012 11:35:19 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: FlyingEagle

Yep.


4 posted on 01/26/2012 11:40:53 PM PST by Claud
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

BUMP


5 posted on 01/26/2012 11:43:03 PM PST by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Thank you Brother for article! Just sad! I believe Obama is going down.


6 posted on 01/26/2012 11:46:39 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy <a and Rosary prayers!)
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Our Muslim president has only ONE reason for this treachery. A Muslim woman wouldn’t dare to have an abortion. If she did, she’d be stoned to death. The result? The number of Muslims within the U.S. will rapidly increase while the Christians will diminish.


7 posted on 01/27/2012 12:06:32 AM PST by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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First abortion in the form of contraception, then open abortion, then euthanasia

There is an agenda being followed, step by step. It is not subtle, but blatant. Compromise now and reap the consequences later.

8 posted on 01/27/2012 12:17:51 AM PST by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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To: kitkat

That is quite true and also the fact that the Catholic Church is the last bastion standing in the way of Homosexual “marriage”. Zero, the sodomite that he is, is determined to force sodomy in our Nation to destroy Christianity through the back door and make the Bible “hate speech”.

Sodomy and pedophilia is not condemned in the koran. In fact, pederasty is the normal recreation in those countries. It goes hand in hand with hating women and treating them like cattle. He is truly a muslim sodomite.


9 posted on 01/27/2012 12:24:10 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law.)
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I cried when I first heard about this. Our country is becoming like the old Soviet Union. How does the Obama administration get away with all this. Where are the checks and balances?

And Sebelius has the nerve to say: “We are at war.” It is they who are at war against our religious liberties.


10 posted on 01/27/2012 12:37:33 AM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: verklaring
There is an agenda being followed, step by step. It is not subtle, but blatant. Compromise now and reap the consequences later.

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I AGREE WITH THAT

Obama says abortion is important for daughters to fulfill their dreams.

pure-1
Jackwagon said: "And to those of you who say that I am living in a fantasy land,
I say to you: no! Today I'm announcing myself king. I am the lord of all I survey.
And as for those bullying Republicans... off with their heads!

Looks like Fantasy Land Is where he belongs! The most mickey mouse president in history not to mention another vacation paid for by you the taxpayers!

Obama in a statement released by the White House on Sunday, January 22, 2012 said: “As we mark the 39th anniversary of Roe v. Wade... we must also continue our efforts to ensure that our daughters have the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.”

So by killing babies it fulfills our daughter's dreams? He also said it reflects the broader principles of America. As a state lawmaker in Illinois, he voted four times against legislation to protect the life of a baby that survived a botched abortion.

Obama can only be described as ''pure evil.''

So now we know... 
'CHANGE' =
 ZERO Job Growth
 ZERO Pipelines
 MORE Food Stamps
 MORE Spending
 MORE Debt
 MORE Golf
 MORE Taxes 
 MORE Welfare 
 MORE Abortions
 MORE Regulation
 MORE Government 
 MORE Speeches
 MORE Money Printing
 MORE Vacations
 MORE Porkulus ('Recovery Summer' lost a net 329,000 jobs.)
 MORE Failure
 MORE Mumbo-jumbo
 LESS Coal
 LESS WOOD (Gibson Guitars Strung Up by Feds)

Countdown until Zer0 leaves Office: 359 days as of January 27, 2012.

11 posted on 01/27/2012 12:52:16 AM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Obama to Catholic Church: “To Hell with You.”

Catholic priest to parishioners: Vote for Democrats or you are stealing from the poor and going to hell.

That was the gist of the last sermon before I left the church.

12 posted on 01/27/2012 12:53:42 AM PST by SlargTarg
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; little jeremiah; wagglebee; Antoninus; scripter
Cardinal-designate Timothy Dolan, archbishop of New York and president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops responded, “in effect, the president is saying that we have a year to figure out how to violate our consciences.”

It's on. This is the anti-theist Left taking on, confronting directly, the largest and most-coherent Christian church directly, on matters of faith and conscience.

This may be the first time since Galerius that the Church has received a direct challenge like this from secular government.

This is the beginning of the Left's persecution of people of faith.

13 posted on 01/27/2012 12:54:01 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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Well, well. Guess the Catholic Church isn't so fond of their Progressive champion these days as they used to be. I can remember not too long ago (3 years to be exact) when I had to get up and leave Mass as our old pastor felt compelled to extol the virtues of the muslim sodomite then running for President.

But of course, he was only promoting "social justice", doncha' know.

14 posted on 01/27/2012 12:55:45 AM PST by liberty_lvr (Drill Gaia like a 3 am prom date)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Any Catholic who supported Obama up to this point will not care about this new act.


15 posted on 01/27/2012 12:56:24 AM PST by giotto
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To: BobP

BTTT

EVIL.


16 posted on 01/27/2012 1:08:05 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Obama’s background and nature (strongly pro abortion) were clear to the educated and those who wanted to know. Yet Notre Dame invited him any way.

Why should Obama care what the Catholic Church wants?


17 posted on 01/27/2012 1:11:21 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Good to see that some in the Church has the stones and write the truth.
Any Catholic that supports Abortion should be Excommunicated.
For too long the Catholics have put up with morons like Pelosi, The Kennedys and other who just pick and choose what parts of the Churches teachings they would follow.


18 posted on 01/27/2012 1:31:11 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: FlyingEagle

“Its simple. Refuse. Disobey. General strike if fined or punished. The marxists will not change the death mandate for babies. Civil disobedience is the only active solution.”

Agreed. The time has come. For years now the US has been drifting towards an authoritarian, even totalitarian police state. If that is not stopped now, it will only become worse.

This is the legislated culture of death.


19 posted on 01/27/2012 1:32:58 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

MFLR.


20 posted on 01/27/2012 1:33:09 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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