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Woman Claims Neighbor’s Energy Efficient Windows Are Melting Her Toyota Prius
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/ ^

Posted on 01/25/2012 8:42:52 AM PST by jakerobins

STUDIO CITY (CBS) — A SoCal woman says the energy efficient window installed in a neighbor’s condominium is melting the plastic components on cars parked in her carport.

Heather Patron of Studio City was dealing with a mystery regarding her Toyota Prius.

“The side view mirrors were melting,” says Patron. “Anything that was plastic on the car was melting.”

Toyota told Patron nothing was wrong with the car. After having the mirrors replaced, she noticed the mirrors on the car parked next to hers were also melting.

(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bioplastics; headlineoftheweek; headlines; prius; priusmelting
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To: lacrew

One of our friends just bought one of the new Fiats.I guess they go for around $12,999 and get great gas mileage.Not sure right now how much it gets but he said it is saving him about $30 a week and he was driving a mini Cooper before.


41 posted on 01/25/2012 9:31:39 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: spokeshave
1).....so purchase a BIG square double glazed window....and a vacuum pump....

2)...couple the vacuum pump inlet to a small pipe glued into the side of the window frame

3)..Place the window to reflect the sunlight back at the neighbor

4) pull a vacuum and adjust the curvature of the glass for focus on the neighbors house....

5)....watch it burn down...

6)...remove your window and pump and retire inside.

42 posted on 01/25/2012 9:37:58 AM PST by spokeshave (Mitt will release his tax returns when 0bambi releases his Birth Certificate and grades)
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43 posted on 01/25/2012 10:01:11 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: stormer

Did Mythbusters account for the situations where the glass panels of the windows were deformed enough to act as concentrating mirrors?


44 posted on 01/25/2012 10:23:09 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: cripplecreek

Instead of smog, the exhaust from a Prius is smug.


45 posted on 01/25/2012 10:32:08 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: lacrew

Please re-do your figures. My Prius gets 54-58 MPG. And also include the value of my time that I do NOT stand around a gas station waiting for the tank to fill (just figure it as $20/hr) and the time finding a gas station and driving to a gas station. Thank you.


46 posted on 01/25/2012 11:15:20 AM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: James C. Bennett

No, because that not what the Greeks were using. I don’t doubt that a window could concentrate light enough to melt nearby plastic; but I don’t believe that you’re going to burn a ship to the waterline in a combat situation using a polished metal mirror...


47 posted on 01/25/2012 11:15:35 AM PST by stormer
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
I give them no respect in traffic myself. I cut them off when I get the chance, and change lanes in front of them whenever possible.

How nice, you just must be a real nice person.

48 posted on 01/25/2012 11:17:04 AM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: jakerobins
The mistake was living, if it may be called that, in a condominium in the first place.

Condominiums are the very statement of communal living, writ large with a mortgage attached. There is a mindset that is drawn to such an arrangement, because it is “efficient” in terms of land use, getting many people in one place for easy application of mass transportation, and bundling everybody to the same sets of woes and setbacks simultaneously.

Then, if one person feels wronged, the wrongness is projected upon ALL the denizens of this rabbit warren, and the offending individual is subject to community wrath.

The only place for an individual to live is in the middle of about one square mile, with a dirt road leading in.

No country for a Prius.

49 posted on 01/25/2012 11:21:49 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: jakerobins
The mistake was living, if it may be called that, in a condominium in the first place.

Condominiums are the very statement of communal living, writ large with a mortgage attached. There is a mindset that is drawn to such an arrangement, because it is “efficient” in terms of land use, getting many people in one place for easy application of mass transportation, and bundling everybody to the same sets of woes and setbacks simultaneously.

Then, if one person feels wronged, the wrongness is projected upon ALL the denizens of this rabbit warren, and the offending individual is subject to community wrath.

The only place for an individual to live is in the middle of about one square mile, with a dirt road leading in.

No country for a Prius.

50 posted on 01/25/2012 11:21:56 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: jakerobins
The mistake was living, if it may be called that, in a condominium in the first place.

Condominiums are the very statement of communal living, writ large with a mortgage attached. There is a mindset that is drawn to such an arrangement, because it is “efficient” in terms of land use, getting many people in one place for easy application of mass transportation, and bundling everybody to the same sets of woes and setbacks simultaneously.

Then, if one person feels wronged, the wrongness is projected upon ALL the denizens of this rabbit warren, and the offending individual is subject to community wrath.

The only place for an individual to live is in the middle of about one square mile, with a dirt road leading in.

No country for a Prius.

51 posted on 01/25/2012 11:21:56 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: jakerobins
The mistake was living, if it may be called that, in a condominium in the first place.

Condominiums are the very statement of communal living, writ large with a mortgage attached. There is a mindset that is drawn to such an arrangement, because it is “efficient” in terms of land use, getting many people in one place for easy application of mass transportation, and bundling everybody to the same sets of woes and setbacks simultaneously.

Then, if one person feels wronged, the wrongness is projected upon ALL the denizens of this rabbit warren, and the offending individual is subject to community wrath.

The only place for an individual to live is in the middle of about one square mile, with a dirt road leading in.

No country for a Prius.

52 posted on 01/25/2012 11:22:00 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: chris_bdba

So they are inexpensive and get good gas mileage. I do carpool three days a week with 3 kids. So tell me, just exactly where do you put these kids and all their gear including band instruments. Then there are camping trips with tents and all their gear, bikes, etc. I’ll keep my old but roomy SUV thank you.


53 posted on 01/25/2012 11:30:24 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: chris_bdba

Park the car somewhere else or buy a cover for it....duh.


Maybe she did not get the govt mandated WHITE car?


54 posted on 01/25/2012 11:31:07 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: businessprofessor

I agree completely. The whole saving the planet thing is bogus. Most of the “solutions” actually use more resources than they supposedly save like the disposal issues of the hybrid batteries, solar panels and the windmills that kill endangered birds. Horse pucky all of it. I also disagree with the whole issue of tax credits for”green things” Just a political ploy and I believe a payoff to sectors often dominated by firms that have donated heavily.


55 posted on 01/25/2012 12:03:25 PM PST by JayGalt
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To: JayGalt

Well knock yourself out - you can drive whatever you want to, as long as (unlike the Volt), I don’t have to pay for it.

I will point out that the 2007 VW Passat got 22 mpg in the city, on an 18.5 gallon tank...giving it the same 400 mile range you have in your Prius...so you really haven’t skipped any trips to the gas station...you just don’t spend as much time there.

You also appear to have been one of the lucky ones. Starting in 2010, Toyota quit using the rubber gas tank in the Prius...because so many people complained about only squeezing 5-6 gallons into it, and having to stop more often at the gas station.


56 posted on 01/25/2012 12:48:42 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: JayGalt

Well knock yourself out - you can drive whatever you want to, as long as (unlike the Volt), I don’t have to pay for it.

I will point out that the 2007 VW Passat got 22 mpg in the city, on an 18.5 gallon tank...giving it the same 400 mile range you have in your Prius...so you really haven’t skipped any trips to the gas station...you just don’t spend as much time there.

You also appear to have been one of the lucky ones. Starting in 2010, Toyota quit using the rubber gas tank in the Prius...because so many people complained about only squeezing 5-6 gallons into it, and having to stop more often at the gas station.


57 posted on 01/25/2012 12:48:47 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: chris_bdba

There is an axiom that people will lie to the low side on what they paid for a car, and to the high side on how much they sold their house for.

A Fiat msrp range is $15,500-$23,500.

The axiom probably applies to people bragging about mileage.

It gets 30/38

A Mini Cooper gets 27/35.

Save $30 a week...if you drive 3,100 miles per week.

Really - using the top end mileage of 38 mpg, they would have to drive 335 miles just to ‘spend’ their first $30...much less ‘save’ $30. How far do they think they drive?


58 posted on 01/25/2012 1:00:50 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

If I had to really, really save money on gas, I’d buy a Honda Infiniti. It would be worth the extra money not to be associated with the Leftist lemmings that drive the Pious, no offense to you intended.


59 posted on 01/25/2012 1:10:14 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Auntie Mame

“Please re-do your figures. My Prius gets 54-58 MPG”

I can do that fairly easily,,,I used Toyota’s data, but if you get better mileage, so be it.

Vs a $15,345 Elantra, your breakover point would be 292,000 miles. Again, I’m not counting higher insurance rates or property taxes on the higher value car.

As for your time...I must be spoiled, because I don’t have to look for a gas station very hard...and the operation takes around 4 minutes. But lets assume you save 1 hour a week of gas pursuit time @ $20 an hour, and you keep the car for 5 years, the breakover becomes 154,000 miles.

Parenthetically, a base Prius is 26,400...assuming a 3% loan rate and 8% sales tax, the payment on that sucker would be $512 a month, or 15% of the pre-tax pay of somebody making $20 an hour.


60 posted on 01/25/2012 1:19:30 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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