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What Really Happened in the Gingrich Ethics Case?
Washington Examiner ^ | January 24, 2012 | Byron York

Posted on 01/24/2012 10:04:04 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball

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To: Vendome

You rock!


121 posted on 01/25/2012 10:54:39 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: hoosiermama

what we need is to have a mass e-mail alert from this site and other sites like this and then have mail saying call a moderate Dem on what ever issue there is that day and tell him that you will not support it, thus instead of having 5 people call their congressman then we will get thousands calling every day and that way we can convince that rep to vote how we want.

Or send mail out to the likes of Brown, or another RINO and mass , call and mass email them.

would be even better if we could get some in talk radio with us but we might as well forget the likes of Hannity who is nothing now but an establishment stooge


122 posted on 01/25/2012 10:59:45 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: netmilsmom

Well, my appointment just got rescheduled.

Glad I found out before driving 45 minutes.

Time to work on the report.

I’ll have it up in a few hours.


123 posted on 01/25/2012 11:06:59 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

bookmark


124 posted on 01/25/2012 12:05:04 PM PST by tentmaker
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To: katiedidit1

Time to NewterRomney

I like that.


125 posted on 01/25/2012 12:53:13 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

A minor quibble.....an alcoholic can never be “recovered”. Recovering, yes.


126 posted on 01/25/2012 2:51:54 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Who are you and what have you done with Ann Coulter?!)
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To: Vendome

Testing my formatting....next post


127 posted on 01/25/2012 3:35:31 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Bookmark


128 posted on 01/25/2012 3:39:12 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

Tell me what you think of this next post?

I have to go to another computer to set the formatting on the bullet points and that should give you enough time to go over it or gloss over it and give me feed back.

I tried to write in a style that anyone with ADHD could read and still have relevant content.

It’s long though. Wasn’t another way to do it and keep the sourcing for my post.


129 posted on 01/25/2012 3:43:51 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: hoosiermama

Let’s demystify Newt’s ethic charges.

The accusation by innuendo and total fabrication is an outright a lie.

What is disturbing is the man leveling these accusations is presumed to be honorable and devoutly religious.  Mitt is not a young man and may be this side of some stability issues mentally or is desperate enough that stacking the deck is the only thing up his sleeve.

Mitt is telling this big lie because it is the last resort of someone who cannot sustain their position for its lack of strength or total vacuousness.  As in “There’s no there…there” in regards to ideas.

Mitt ain’t that nice guy persona everyone has been pushing and he is lying despite Gingrich having been exonerated…Totally and Completely on the myriad and volume of charges leveled at him over a four year period.

Mitt’s lying, Christie doesn’t care and pretends to have the facts at hand, which is strange given he is a former prosecutor and would have had enough facts/evidence gathered before attempting to prosecute and convict someone.

Makes me question the quality of his cases and perhaps they should be reviewed.

The whole affair was just a really bad movie:

The plot is concocted by someone not important enough to name here and in 1995 Gingrich is accused of violating rule 45 of his ethics obligations.  A totally trumped up and baseless charge.

The 1st scene of this really bad movie started with David Bonior, the then powerful and outspoken Democratic whip in the House, who in 1996 uses the press as his microphone and blurts "Mr. Gingrich has engaged in a pattern of tax fraud, lies, and cover-ups in paving his road to the second highest office in the land…I would expect the Justice Department, the FBI, a grand jury, and other appropriate entities to investigate."

Newt was accused of:

·         83 counts of Ethics Violations. 

None of which stuck because they were trumped up and phony charges to begin with

·         Lying to the Ethics Counsel.( The charge was later amended to something less significant )

One minor charge in which Newt had his lawyer write some letter that wasn’t fully complete in it’s response to a demand by the Ethics Committee and Newt didn’t read it before signing it and having it sent.  He later corrected the error.

·         Tax fraud.  

The IRS didn’t just conclude he had done nothing wrong they went further and extolled that the class was something that every American would find valuable as a civics lesson.

Having no luck in convicting Newt on the 1st phony charge Bonior and his merry political henchmen continued fabricating circumstance and accusations for the next three years.  Charge after charge would be leveled at Gingrich a total of 84. 

Why were there so many charges with so little to show?  It comes down to losers have a habit of losing and in this case there was collective cabal who excelled at losing and I’m not sure they didn’t actually feel some sense of empowerment for all their losses.

But they were and are still losers with no conscience.  That’s the way of the world. 

In the end it always about them and they will employ any self serving, win at all costs tactic to achieve their nirvana.

Too bad they really never got there otherwise they might feel even better about themselves

To cap off their outrageouse waste of taxpayer resources and monies on frivolous and unsubstantiated charges, Bill Clinton’s IRS was employed as weapon against Gingrich.

That concocted investigation, which by any standard was exhaustive, revealed only that Gingrich had, as stated in the 74 page report by the IRS:

The taught principles from American civilization that could be used by each American in everyday life, whether the person is a welfare recipient, the head of a large corporation or a politician." It said: "The course was not biased toward particular politicians, or a particular party. The facts show the class was much more than a political platform."

That’s it?  That’s all you got?

In the end, after pursuing a strategy of “If you look long enough, you can eventually find something wrong” strategy Gingrich was found guilty of  “Engaging in conduct that did not reflect creditably on the House of Representatives." That’s it?  You have got to be kidding?

In 1998 the House dropped the remaining charges (83 of 84)!  Amazing!  Right!  I mean here is a guy accused of just “so many violations” and they can’t manage to convict him?

In 1999, the IRS concluded Newt Gingrich had conducted a very thoughtful course that was well balanced(favored neither Republican nor Democrats), highly educational and violated no rules or laws of ethics, funding or tax laws.

The bottom line:

·         Gingrich violated no laws. 

Remember, there were over a course of three year 83 charges of ethics violations and none of the accusations bore any fruit.

·         There was no tax fraud scheme.

The IRS concluded the course that animated this whole BS was, in fact, a very good civic lesson to anyone who completed the course but that’s not a crime.

·         Only one minor charge of dubious construction was admitted to.  “Engaging in conduct that did not reflect creditably on the House of Representatives”.

“…The Subcommittee and the Special Counsel recommend that the appropriate sanction should be reprimand and a payment reimbursing the House for some of the costs of the investigation in the amount of $300,000”.  (Source: House Report 105  page 94 “para’s #2 and #6) (If you want to read the final House report you can find it here in PDF it’s only 137 pages

You couldn’t seriously charge him with anything serious enough to even get him Censured.  What is a reprimand anyway?  “Don’t do it again?”

So it ended after all those years or so we thought until some one with no ideas, who has never had any ideas decides the only way to win is scorched earth and a war of attrition? 

Mitt you idiot, Gingrich has fought that battle before against an army of partisans.  You are a mere hack and your political demise will be all too fitting for its pastel colors of flourish.

Here is a video of how CNN describes the end of this affair,.which opens as follows (2:26 mins and illuminating for its source):

It was legal after all. Newt Gingrich's oh-so-controversial college course that he started back in 1993, before he was speaker.  (Hat tip: Greg Hengler Blogger, Townhall.com)

Here Newt sits at a news conference and reminds them as of the date of this interview he has been exonerated on 10 charges which seemed to make page 1 of the newspapers but his exoneration couldn’t seem to be reported on.

Further, anything that might have been questioned from an ethical point was pre-cleared with the Ethics Committee

3:44 minutes of Newt illuminating their stoopidity:

Newt Gingrich: I'm an ethical person

This is Newt in December of 2011 he sums up nicely and in rapid fire what happened.

So in the end we have a bumper sticker for Gingrich’s opponents:

Got Newt…Nope..

Just this lousy T-shirt

 

130 posted on 01/25/2012 3:44:36 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SatinDoll

And the GOP moderates (like Speaker Boehner today), along with viral Dems, stabbed him just as hard.


131 posted on 01/25/2012 3:51:56 PM PST by Fledermaus (I can't fiddle so I'll just open a cold beer as I watch America burn.)
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To: Vendome

It was a little long for me, but don’t know how to make it more concise. Post it to it’s own thread. We’ll send it out.


132 posted on 01/25/2012 3:57:30 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Vendome

Well done!


133 posted on 01/25/2012 4:15:20 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: hoosiermama

That was my problem. I couldn’t figure out how to shorten it.

Oh well, I can’t be 100% all the time. Thursdays are not so good for me.

LOL


134 posted on 01/25/2012 4:16:00 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: hoosiermama
The links, with a sentence dientifying what each addresses is how I've listed it in my Gringrich ammo desktop file.

It strikes me as sad and depressing how easily black House members playing house darky for Bonier will repeat lies written for them and cannot see what fools they make of themselves and by implication black democrats in general! ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMpBBRUCMd8&feature=youtu.be Watch as John Lewis proves he hasn't enough manhood to refuse to read what he is handed so he lifts his pantiloons and lies for Bonier on national TV.

135 posted on 01/25/2012 4:30:38 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Vendome

How about just cutting off the top part>


Newt was accused of:

· 83 counts of Ethics Violations.

None of which stuck because they were trumped up and phony charges to begin with

· Lying to the Ethics Counsel.(The charge was later amended to something less significant )

One minor charge in which Newt had his lawyer write some letter that wasn’t fully complete in it’s response to a demand by the Ethics Committee and Newt didn’t read it before signing it and having it sent. He later corrected the error.

· Tax fraud.

The IRS didn’t just conclude he had done nothing wrong they went further and extolled that the class was something that every American would find valuable as a civics lesson.

Having no luck in convicting Newt on the 1st phony charge Bonior and his merry political henchmen continued fabricating circumstance and accusations for the next three years. Charge after charge would be leveled at Gingrich a total of 84.

Why were there so many charges with so little to show? It comes down to losers have a habit of losing and in this case there was collective cabal who excelled at losing and I’m not sure they didn’t actually feel some sense of empowerment for all their losses.

But they were and are still losers with no conscience. That’s the way of the world.

In the end it always about them and they will employ any self serving, win at all costs tactic to achieve their nirvana.

Too bad they really never got there otherwise they might feel even better about themselves

To cap off their outrageouse waste of taxpayer resources and monies on frivolous and unsubstantiated charges, Bill Clinton’s IRS was employed as weapon against Gingrich.

That concocted investigation, which by any standard was exhaustive, revealed only that Gingrich had, as stated in the 74 page report by the IRS:

“The taught principles from American civilization that could be used by each American in everyday life, whether the person is a welfare recipient, the head of a large corporation or a politician.” It said: “The course was not biased toward particular politicians, or a particular party. The facts show the class was much more than a political platform.”

That’s it? That’s all you got?

In the end, after pursuing a strategy of “If you look long enough, you can eventually find something wrong” strategy Gingrich was found guilty of “Engaging in conduct that did not reflect creditably on the House of Representatives.” That’s it? You have got to be kidding?

In 1998 the House dropped the remaining charges (83 of 84)! Amazing! Right! I mean here is a guy accused of just “so many violations” and they can’t manage to convict him?

In 1999, the IRS concluded Newt Gingrich had conducted a very thoughtful course that was well balanced(favored neither Republican nor Democrats), highly educational and violated no rules or laws of ethics, funding or tax laws.

The bottom line:

· Gingrich violated no laws.


136 posted on 01/25/2012 4:33:12 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

Might could do without the personal commentary toward Mutt.

I’ll try another post in a few days with your idea.


137 posted on 01/25/2012 4:49:57 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Just mythoughts

No problem.


138 posted on 01/25/2012 4:50:51 PM PST by Cooter
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To: Vendome

How about just cutting off the top part>


Newt was accused of:

· 83 counts of Ethics Violations.

None of which stuck because they were trumped up and phony charges to begin with

· Lying to the Ethics Counsel.(The charge was later amended to something less significant )

One minor charge in which Newt had his lawyer write some letter that wasn’t fully complete in it’s response to a demand by the Ethics Committee and Newt didn’t read it before signing it and having it sent. He later corrected the error.

· Tax fraud.

The IRS didn’t just conclude he had done nothing wrong they went further and extolled that the class was something that every American would find valuable as a civics lesson.

Having no luck in convicting Newt on the 1st phony charge Bonior and his merry political henchmen continued fabricating circumstance and accusations for the next three years. Charge after charge would be leveled at Gingrich a total of 84.

Why were there so many charges with so little to show? It comes down to losers have a habit of losing and in this case there was collective cabal who excelled at losing and I’m not sure they didn’t actually feel some sense of empowerment for all their losses.

But they were and are still losers with no conscience. That’s the way of the world.

In the end it always about them and they will employ any self serving, win at all costs tactic to achieve their nirvana.

Too bad they really never got there otherwise they might feel even better about themselves

To cap off their outrageouse waste of taxpayer resources and monies on frivolous and unsubstantiated charges, Bill Clinton’s IRS was employed as weapon against Gingrich.

That concocted investigation, which by any standard was exhaustive, revealed only that Gingrich had, as stated in the 74 page report by the IRS:

“The taught principles from American civilization that could be used by each American in everyday life, whether the person is a welfare recipient, the head of a large corporation or a politician.” It said: “The course was not biased toward particular politicians, or a particular party. The facts show the class was much more than a political platform.”

That’s it? That’s all you got?

In the end, after pursuing a strategy of “If you look long enough, you can eventually find something wrong” strategy Gingrich was found guilty of “Engaging in conduct that did not reflect creditably on the House of Representatives.” That’s it? You have got to be kidding?

In 1998 the House dropped the remaining charges (83 of 84)! Amazing! Right! I mean here is a guy accused of just “so many violations” and they can’t manage to convict him?

In 1999, the IRS concluded Newt Gingrich had conducted a very thoughtful course that was well balanced(favored neither Republican nor Democrats), highly educational and violated no rules or laws of ethics, funding or tax laws.

The bottom line:

· Gingrich violated no laws.


139 posted on 01/25/2012 4:55:00 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

This article may have just put me in the Gingrich camp. Not going to change my tagline yet.

We’ll see. I still think Newt’s going to implode and say something really stupid (like putting a colony on the moon.)

On another thread this weekend I compared Newt to Brett (Favre). As a Packer fan Brett was a wild, fun ride who broke our hearts. I’m just afraid Newt is going to throw an inception either during the Conference Championship or during the Super Bowl.


140 posted on 01/25/2012 4:56:09 PM PST by PjhCPA (They all suck. Rick sucks the least.)
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