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To: cakid1

Must have permit to conceal carry.

Can no longer conceal carry.

Open carry of pistols must be unloaded.

No open carry of pistols.

No open carry of long guns.

Amongst all of that... Various types of guns made illegal for entirely arbitrary and capricious reasons.

Do I need to paint the picture any further? Californians... You are now past your “tipping point”. The line has been crossed.

Do you now draw another line even further back? Or do you finally take a stand?


10 posted on 01/23/2012 9:48:32 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Dead Corpse

I always like to use the California gun laws as a point when folks get too carried away in calling someone a “RINO” when it comes down to a few votes or decisions. We will never find the PERFECT conservative. Even Reagan wasn’t perfect.


29 posted on 01/23/2012 11:22:43 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: Dead Corpse; VeniVidiVici; Jim Robinson
Californians... You are now past your “tipping point”. The line has been crossed.

There are powerful remedies for this garbage that strike directly at the heart of the Democratic Party.

The Second Amendment is self-binding to California by its own terms, and in addition is further bound to California (and its government) by the 14th Amendment.

Re-read the 14th: Any State found guilty of depriving its Citizens of their rights, privileges, and immunities under the Constitution and Bill of Rights is subject to having its delegation to the United States House of Representatives reduced in the same proportion as that of its Citizens whose rights have been denied.

And who is the judge of whether California has transgressed its obligations under the 14th Amendment, and of the remedy?

The House itself. Meaning, the Republican caucus of the House of Representatives, led by Speaker Boehner.

If California has just stripped 100% of its Citizens of an important right, then the House can refuse to seat the entire California delegation and send them all home.

Think about it. Re-read the 14th and see if the power isn't there. It is.

33 posted on 01/24/2012 3:39:51 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Dead Corpse

What part of “shall not be infringed” does the State of California not understand? (The State of California is very clever, it asserts repeatedly that it knows various substances cause cancer, so I assume it can read the U.S. Constitution.)

I still take the position that the several states may regulate the bearing of arms in manners analogous to what the Founders would have recognized as elements of a militia manual of arms: if they want to require that members of the unorganized militia bear arms openly, they are welcomed to ban concealed carry, so long as open carry is unfettered; if they wish members of the unorganized militia to be discrete about the fact they are armed, they are welcomed to ban open carry, so long as concealed carry is unfettered. Either of those policies, or ones in between with unfettered open carry and various permitting regimes for concealed carry, do not infringe the right to keep and bear arms. California’s laws plainly do, and I trust there will be challenges, given recent 2nd Amendment jurisprudence.


53 posted on 01/24/2012 7:58:11 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Dead Corpse

“...do you finally take a stand?”

Whaddya mean “finally”? They got us outnumbered by enough to ram down just about any POS legislation that falls outta their anal orifices.

Those of us that’re still here slogging away are doing it to keep the bastards distracted long enough for the women, children ,and elderly to GTF outta here.

Meanwhile, we’re exploiting the system to do things like take advantage of the most educational liberty known in any of the 50 States to raise our kids our way — OUTSIDE the walls of the State-run schools. Wherever we can, we’re using the Commie-lib’s rules against them; forcing them to eat he crap they dish out. This is socio-political guerrilla warfare out here; it ain’t pretty, and it makes no sense at all on the surface, but we force the cost of every one of their victories to exceed the price of our concessions, even if that isn’t readily apparent.

When the last of us steps backward across the state line, I promise, we’ll bring out the flag, and shut out the lights. The Commie-libtards can take what’s left, and play “Lord of the Flies” until the whole thing implodes; probably in the throes of a violent uprising of their below-minimum-wage illegal alien service workers. I can only hope that the rest of the country has the good sense to start saying — and KEEP saying — “HELL NO!” to every Californian request for Federal money.


55 posted on 01/24/2012 8:07:16 AM PST by HKMk23 (YHVH NEVER PLAYS DEFENSE)
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