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New York gun law triggers confusion, arrests for visitors (NYC shoots its tourism foot!)
CNN ^ | January 21, 2012 | Susan Candiotti and Ross Levitt

Posted on 01/23/2012 11:46:03 AM PST by neverdem

Tough New York gun law stirs debate

Ryan Jerome was arrested when he tried to security-check his pistol

The former Marine has a permit for the gun in his home state, but he was visiting New York

The state requires that gun-toting visitors have a New York-issued permit

People carrying guns are arrested even though they have permits from their home states

NEW YORK (CNN) -- An online campaign in support of a former U.S. Marine -- arrested for attempting to security-check his pistol while visiting the Empire State Building -- is bringing new attention and a fair amount of scrutiny to one of the nation's toughest gun-control laws.

Ryan Jerome, 28, was charged with criminal possession of his .45-caliber Ruger while visiting the famous New York landmark during a September vacation with his girlfriend. Jerome has a license to carry the weapon from his home state of Indiana, but New Yorks state gun laws do not recognize out-of-state permits.

With his case still pending, Jerome could face up to three and a half years in jail.

Jerome's attorney says its clear his client, who does not have a criminal record, wasn't attempting anything nefarious because Jerome approached security on his own to tell the guards about his weapon...

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; govtabuse; newyorkcity; nyc; ryanjerome; shallnotbeinfringed; tyranny; waronliberty

1 posted on 01/23/2012 11:46:08 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I hate NY.


2 posted on 01/23/2012 11:54:24 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: neverdem

Stay out of New York with your gun and stay out of Washington D.C. with your car. Damned camera’s are everywhere.


3 posted on 01/23/2012 11:59:02 AM PST by Venturer
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To: neverdem

I wouldn’t step foot in New York if the trip were free.


4 posted on 01/23/2012 12:01:03 PM PST by formosa (Formosa)
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To: neverdem
I rhink the NRA and Gun owners of America, etc. to inform their members that they are encourage a boycott of NYC unless and until they change their laws.

I think that their are enough gun owners in this country to make a significant statement and cut into NYC's tourist trade to have an impact.

Mayor Bloom-in-Idiot and his far left, anti-2nd Amend coterie in the Big Apple needs to have a strong message sent to them and it needs to be loud and clear.

5 posted on 01/23/2012 12:03:16 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: neverdem
Not every state has reciprocity for their handgun licenses with other states......

and NY recognizes reciprocity with NO OTHER STATE.

come on folks....until the Supremes or Congress or someone straightens this all out...don't expect your license to work in states other than the ones that accept you license....or be prepared to be detained.

Yeah...NY really bites the big one (I live here and have a CCW and know how bad it is)...but the rest of the country should know this by now.

6 posted on 01/23/2012 12:09:37 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: neverdem
"New York state has enacted rational gun laws for one very simple reason: to protect everyone visiting, living, or working in New York."

“Everyone” should not be construed to mean anyone other than criminals and those with enough political pull to get a CCW license in NYC

Because NYC’s CCW laws are not “rational” for any other group of persons in NYC.

7 posted on 01/23/2012 12:10:49 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: neverdem
Gun owners, taxpayers and property owners have been targeted for the clampdown by New York lefties for some time now.

That's why most people who want to own guns, make money or own property are now leaving or won't move there in the first place.

8 posted on 01/23/2012 12:12:05 PM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Vaquero
" ...but the rest of the country should know this by now."

Some of us have the (apparently silly) notion that Article 4 of the Constitution is still in force:

Article. IV.

Section. 1.

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.

9 posted on 01/23/2012 12:27:03 PM PST by In Maryland ("Truth? We don't need no stinkin' truth!" - Official Motto of the Main Stream Media)
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To: In Maryland

Perhaps other states can refuse to recognize NY driver’s licenses.


10 posted on 01/23/2012 12:34:06 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: In Maryland
you're preaching to the choir.

I still think the 2nd is ‘infringed’ upon to unconstitutional levels by both the states and the feds....so that article IV is just double unconstitutionality at work.....

now if you want to make a test case in NY....or even worse in NJ, you go right ahead. But I will continue to work within ‘the system’ to get what I need until we can get the constitution lined out.(no we should not have to...it should be perfect but it ain't)

11 posted on 01/23/2012 12:38:35 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero
and NY recognizes reciprocity with NO OTHER STATE.

It sounds like Albany has a problem similar to the man who says everyone else is crazy. Yet he never considers that he maybe the one who is crazy.

12 posted on 01/23/2012 12:41:56 PM PST by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: neverdem

F*&% New York. I do not go there. I do no business with any business there. I urge my friends and business associates to do the same. I have relatives in NY. I do not visit them there (and they’re BDLs anyway, and really, really annoying).


13 posted on 01/23/2012 12:43:57 PM PST by pabianice (")
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To: neverdem

NYC handgun laws are simple especially for visitors. You can’t have one. Period. If they find you with one you go to jail. Don’t bother applying for a permit, such things don’t exist unless you are rich and famous. On the bright side, it’s probably worse in New Jersey.


14 posted on 01/23/2012 1:03:46 PM PST by Hacklehead (Winchester 52, because everyone needs a 22 rimfire that weighs 12 pounds.)
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To: neverdem
New York gun law triggers confusion, arrests for visitors (NYC shoots its tourism foot!)

You need to be careful on your use of gun type references.

They are watching and in some places, that's enough to arrest you on weapons charges or threats of violence.

15 posted on 01/23/2012 1:05:39 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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16 posted on 01/23/2012 1:18:00 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TYVets
It sounds like Albany has a problem similar to the man who says everyone else is crazy. Yet he never considers that he maybe the one who is crazy

yeah but not just NY, Jersey is worse.....I live in NY and I hunt in NY.

when I go hunting, it saves me around an hour and a load of gas to go through Jersey and PA and then back up into NY.

I must lock up all my weapons in the trunk and separate from the ammo(rifles and handguns)....if caught in NJ with a gun, even if you do follow the rules, they may lock you up an throw away the key. NJ is the worst.

17 posted on 01/23/2012 2:22:05 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: AAABEST

Once upon a time didn’t they make a movie about people trying to escape New York?


18 posted on 01/23/2012 3:11:18 PM PST by PastorBooks
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To: All

Here’s a link to state gun laws published by ATF. See if you can find the applicable law to this case...

STATE LAWS AND PUBLISHED ORDINANCES - FIREARMS (30TH EDITION – 2009 - 2010) *note* Valid only through January 2010.

http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-5-2011/2009-30th-edition.pdf


19 posted on 01/23/2012 7:16:33 PM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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