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To: Danae

Please enlighten me. What about Hatfield that makes him shake?


41 posted on 01/22/2012 11:39:31 AM PST by traintown57
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To: traintown57
Minor v. Happersett

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 168."

Justia.com didn't scrub that case off their servers by accident, nor was it done for frivolous reasons.
46 posted on 01/22/2012 11:44:20 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: traintown57
Please enlighten me. What about Hatfield that makes him shake?

There are only 3 things that the judge is going to be concerned with. 1) is Obama over 35 years of age, 2) has he resided in the US for the last 14 years, and 3) is he a US 'natural born Citizen'.

Hatfield, and Van Irion are arguing that Obama is not eligible because does not - based on standing US Supreme Court precedent - fulfill the legal definition of #3.

Orly on the other hand is arguing about fraud, identiy theft, SSN's.... The judge is going to tell her none of that is relavant. Because legally, it's not. Even if the things Orly is arguing are true, and Obama committed multiple felonies, that does not make him ineligible for the office of President. The ONLY thing the judge is concerned about are the 3 requirements mentioned above.

Orly has done more to HELP Obama than anyone in the country, by allowing the media to frame all "birther's" as those 'crazy' people who believe Obama is not an American Citizen, or that he was born in Kenya.

I actually believe Obama was born in Hawaii AND the BC's he's released are fraudulent. Obama has done everything he can to keep the 'birther' issue going. It started to die down, and Trump comes along and fires it up again - he then gets a much needed building permit in Chicago approved. It dies down again, and Obama's father's University buddy, and huge Obama supporter Hawaii Gov. Ambercrombie, says that there is an issue with Obama's BC.

Obama has done everything in his power to frame the issue of his eligibility on where he was born. And those who question his eligibility as crazy people who believe he's not an American citizen. Obama has done this to hide the one issue he can't hide (because he wrote an entire book about it!) - Obama is not eligible to the office of POTUS, because the US Supreme Court has made precedent that only those born of 2 US citizen parents can be considered 'natural born Ciitzens' - and Obama's father was never, and never intended to become, a US citizen.
151 posted on 01/25/2012 9:39:36 AM PST by MMaschin
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