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To: traintown57
Please enlighten me. What about Hatfield that makes him shake?

There are only 3 things that the judge is going to be concerned with. 1) is Obama over 35 years of age, 2) has he resided in the US for the last 14 years, and 3) is he a US 'natural born Citizen'.

Hatfield, and Van Irion are arguing that Obama is not eligible because does not - based on standing US Supreme Court precedent - fulfill the legal definition of #3.

Orly on the other hand is arguing about fraud, identiy theft, SSN's.... The judge is going to tell her none of that is relavant. Because legally, it's not. Even if the things Orly is arguing are true, and Obama committed multiple felonies, that does not make him ineligible for the office of President. The ONLY thing the judge is concerned about are the 3 requirements mentioned above.

Orly has done more to HELP Obama than anyone in the country, by allowing the media to frame all "birther's" as those 'crazy' people who believe Obama is not an American Citizen, or that he was born in Kenya.

I actually believe Obama was born in Hawaii AND the BC's he's released are fraudulent. Obama has done everything he can to keep the 'birther' issue going. It started to die down, and Trump comes along and fires it up again - he then gets a much needed building permit in Chicago approved. It dies down again, and Obama's father's University buddy, and huge Obama supporter Hawaii Gov. Ambercrombie, says that there is an issue with Obama's BC.

Obama has done everything in his power to frame the issue of his eligibility on where he was born. And those who question his eligibility as crazy people who believe he's not an American citizen. Obama has done this to hide the one issue he can't hide (because he wrote an entire book about it!) - Obama is not eligible to the office of POTUS, because the US Supreme Court has made precedent that only those born of 2 US citizen parents can be considered 'natural born Ciitzens' - and Obama's father was never, and never intended to become, a US citizen.
151 posted on 01/25/2012 9:39:36 AM PST by MMaschin
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To: MMaschin; traintown57

So HOW can he be a NBC when he has been and possible still are an Indonesian citizen with false SS###, etc.???


154 posted on 01/25/2012 3:52:06 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: MMaschin
Orly on the other hand is arguing about fraud, identiy theft, SSN's.... The judge is going to tell her none of that is relevant. Because legally, it's not. Even if the things Orly is arguing are true, and Obama committed multiple felonies, that does not make him ineligible for the office of President. The ONLY thing the judge is concerned about are the 3 requirements mentioned above. Orly has done more to HELP Obama than anyone in the country, by allowing the media to frame all "birther's" as those 'crazy' people who believe Obama is not an American Citizen, or that he was born in Kenya.

They are not ALL crazy. It's just that "Birthers" are not lawyers and are emotionally involved in "righting" Obama's "wrongs." Just about everything HE has told us is either false, or subtly parsed to avoid telling us that which he wishes to remain hidden. It is possible that he was born in Hawaii. He hasn't proven it. It is possible he was born in Kenya, or Vancouver, or in the dugout at the Polo Grounds, it's just that we can't prove that. There was a guy in my neighborhood who shot my dog. I know it. The police knew it. The whole darn town knew it and no one could do anything about it.

Of course, Obama is not a "Natural Born Citizen" as it has been traditionally held over the years. That in itself should have been enough for at least 1 (one) Secretary of State to bar him from a state ballot. I fear that is the only way to get this slippery character into a court on the issue.

Let's see if the GA officials get themselves beyond the legal tom-foolery and find the heart to merely do their jobs. Get a sitting President, legitimate or not, to respond to a subpoena from a State Administrative Hearing Judge, when he doesn't want to respond? That'll be the day!

The guy who shot my dog threatened to sue me for slander. That trial would have been the only way to get him to court, and I would have welcomed it. Of course, that never happened. That's what Obama needs to have happen ... he must be forced to court to sue us for damages. We know exactly who shot our dog.

165 posted on 01/25/2012 11:22:17 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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