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Obama Admin Decides to Require Religious Institutions to Cover Free Contraception
CatholicVote.org ^ | 01/20/2012 | Thomas Peters

Posted on 01/20/2012 10:14:36 AM PST by Pyro7480

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To: Pyro7480

I made the mistake of reading the posts on the “Think[Re]gress” site. Most believe a woman has the right to do with her body as she pleases. Blind leading the blind.

Headache, heartache.


61 posted on 01/20/2012 1:47:16 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: rwfromkansas
"I would have no problem requiring contraception coverage and am pro-life. However, I ONLY AM OKAY WITH IT if the company already has a policy covering male stuff like viagra.

Libs (not that you are one) love to make this equivalence between contraception and viagra. They fail to distinguish that viagra is used to allow men whose abilities have been compromised by a medical condition to function normally - what is known as a medicine. Contraception is a means of PREVENTING a woman's body from functionally normally. They are trying to make pregnancy a "disease" - which, of course, dovetails nicely into their pro-abortion stand.

Why shouldn't a woman be allowed to cure a "disease" like pregnancy? And why shouldn't YOU have to pay for it? /sarc

62 posted on 01/20/2012 1:48:31 PM PST by In Maryland ("Truth? We don't need no stinkin' truth!" - Official Motto of the Main Stream Media)
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To: newgeezer

I agree with that. And if Obama gets to appoint two or so more SCOTUS justices, watch out.

This guy could pick someone out of an “Occupy Protest” and nominate them, and the donkeys on the Hill would support them.


63 posted on 01/20/2012 2:00:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Listen up RNC. If we wind up with Mitt Romney, you're not getting my vote in November.)
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To: Houghton M.

I think you so nailed it on the head.

Such as birth control pills aren’t all that expensive. They want to get abortion paid for by the taxpayers and be damned the sillies who think this is murder of the unborn.

They’ll keep trying until they win.


64 posted on 01/20/2012 2:11:00 PM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: gleeaikin
"I have never been able to understand why all contraception, including barrier kinds like condoms and the cervical cap are being opposed by conservatives.

Your premise is false at the outset. I am not opposed to contraception. I don't want to control other people's lives. They can do as they like.

What I am opposed to is forcing a faith-based organization to pay for an activity that violates their faith. If contraception coverage is important to you, DON'T TAKE A JOB WITH A CATHOLIC ORGANIZATION. If having wine with your lunch is important to you, don't work for Muslim or Baptist organizations. If using illegal drugs is important to you, don't apply to an employer with drug testing. If you want to cheat on your taxes, don't work for the IRS. If you want to cheat on your spouse, think twice about running for president.

The only possible intrusion I can contemplate tolerating is requiring an organization that does not cover contraception or abortion to DISCLOSE that fact to applicants. Then the applicant can make the choice as to whether that is a problem for them or not - in other words, make an informed choice.

I don't want to control people who believe differently than I do on this subject - but neither do I want to be controlled BY them. And that is what this is all about - not conservatives trying to control women, but liberals trying to control conservatives.

And by the way, caring for poor children is important to conservatives. We just don't think that creating more poor children should be a government-subsidized career choice!

65 posted on 01/20/2012 2:13:32 PM PST by In Maryland ("Truth? We don't need no stinkin' truth!" - Official Motto of the Main Stream Media)
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; trisham; bamahead; greyfoxx39; tutstar; WKB; Sopater; ...

Why hasn’t this guy been impeached yet?


66 posted on 01/20/2012 2:17:40 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Houghton M.

Correct.

Given that life starts at conception, not implantation, do you know of any studies that have tried to estimate the amount of embryos that are killed each year due to abortifacients and “contraception?”

It’s well known that abortion kills over a million a year, but I fear that this number, if possible to at least roughly estimate, could be astronomical.


67 posted on 01/20/2012 2:54:35 PM PST by WPaCon
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To: Pyro7480

Isn’t it liberals and democrats that are always crying about “separation of church and state”?


68 posted on 01/20/2012 2:56:49 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Deb
The Supremes will demolish this in a nano-second.

You have more faith than I in Justice Kennedy. I shudder to think how the 'wise' Latino and the similarly 'wise' Lesbian whisper sweet nothings in his ear at all the Washington cocktail parties.

69 posted on 01/20/2012 3:02:35 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: goodnesswins
There are many men out there right now, however, jumping for joy...FREE in this context means....FREE to DO WHATEVER I want without consequence.

troll much?

70 posted on 01/20/2012 3:03:36 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Servant of the Cross
A couple of days ago the ENTIRE Court slapped down the Obama administration after they tried to sue a church for firing a teacher. They voted 9 to 0 in favor of the church and issued a rebuke of the feds for attempting to dictate how a religious group chooses to govern its self.

I could be wrong (yeah, right) but they might surprise you.

71 posted on 01/20/2012 3:16:58 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: In Maryland; All

“creating more poor children should [not] be a government-subsidized career choice.” This is exactly my point. While I can see your arguments about not working at places that violate your own standards or choices, the anti contraception issue does not stop there. I get the impression that preventing contraception by everyone seems to be the goal of some religious/political efforts. It also seems to me that the people involved in those efforts do not seem to have any interest in the children who are born after their approach succeeds.


72 posted on 01/20/2012 3:17:38 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

With all due respect, my conservative viewpoint on this topic is not a rejection of contraception itself. Rather, it is the notion that taxpayers should somehow be mandated to enable all American’s a free supply.

Have to also say that pulling the heartstrings of poor people and teens, doesn’t fly with me either. We should operate from the mandate that people take responsibility for their actions shouldn’t we? That if a couple chooses to have sex, there’s a good chance of a far greater responsibility ocurring 9 months later. We should neither inspire or enable people to be reckless with their decisions.

I also do not follow the comment that conservatives somehow wish to prevent sex education. I’d much rather have people prepared early to understand. I’m OK with school providing some of this, but as a parent, it’s my responsibility.


73 posted on 01/20/2012 3:34:52 PM PST by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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To: Deb

I did see that 9-0 verdict and promptly fell out of my chair. I guess God IS still in control.


74 posted on 01/20/2012 3:44:12 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: DBrow

That’s fine. Give the patient a placebo.

“Oh, that darned abortion pill failed AGAIN.”


75 posted on 01/20/2012 4:08:54 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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Government needs to stay out of church policies. Government has no right nor authority to regulate the church or it's policies if they are not criminal. Contraception is a serious moral conscience violation for some churches. Government should not have legal authority to impose such a moral violation as this.

I'm not Catholic but I fully support the right of the Catholic church not to dispense birth control at the expense of the church or in any facilities used in it's mission including health care which it owns and operates.

Preacher and Priest of all churches need to take up the fight on this one. It's about who controls the doctrine of the church. Is it the government or is it the churches? U.S. Constitution supports the churches.

76 posted on 01/20/2012 4:47:02 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Michael Barnes

HUH?....I don’t think you GOT what I was saying....whatever.


77 posted on 01/20/2012 4:59:58 PM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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78 posted on 01/20/2012 5:13:23 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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79 posted on 01/20/2012 5:17:54 PM PST by narses
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To: Pyro7480

This is why we must elect whoever the republican nominee is. None of the 4 left would do stuff like this.


80 posted on 01/20/2012 5:34:23 PM PST by gswilder
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