Posted on 01/20/2012 9:40:04 AM PST by TBBT
Gallup chief: Romney support 'collapsing'
No worries, I’ve seen the “druggie” cop out many many times myself. So, I understand where you’re coming from.
I think you bring up a lot of valid points. I’d like to talk about a few of them. You mentioned having a non interventionist view. I don’t, per se, but I also don’t have a view that our foreign policy is correct either. Here’s my take. I think if we have an alliance or treaty with a country (passed by the Congress, signed by the President), then in that scenario, we should make a term of that agreement that we get some form of compensation. We don’t need to police the world, and certainly not on our taxpayer’s dime. We could take monetary compensation, or we could have accesses to resources etc. There are those in the world who’d hate us and say we’re pillaging their country, but so what? They do that anyway. So I think if we have no interest in a country, we shouldn’t be there. We fought our own revolutionary war, so can other countries.
I agree with changing our monetary policy. Yesterday Gingrich said he had been contemplating a gold backed currency (use a keyword search for “gold” and it’ll come up). It may or may not be political pandering, but at least the dialogue is being elevated.
Lastly, on the topic of the younger voters, it’s important that people understand that the (collective) past two elder generations have screwed their children financially. They’re leaving them with debt past their eyeballs, a decaying military, a police state, and beyond that, a war on any morality. Too many people rolled over for the leftists. Now we’re broke, and the argument is coming down to socialism funded on the backs of the younger generations. Let’s be honest. There is no money. We are spending TRILLIONS in deficit every year. There’s nothing in the social security “fund.” Foreign countries had been subsidizing our debt, but now the Fed is monetizing it.
So on top of all the other issues, a currency crisis is falling into the laps of those born after say, 1975. The bulk of their adult lives is going to be in a country with few freedoms, no sound money, and nation breaking debt. They’re right to be angry. Now they’re being told, “Sit down, and shut up, and don’t you dare touch my social security (that [you’ll] have to pay for).”
This is a huge problem. A generation that wants the next one to labor to pay for their retirment has the audacity to call the de facto slaves “lazy.” No, misguided, maybe (by their leftist teachers, and apathetic parents), but the problem is they want the freedom they’re being denied. The solution isn’t a class warfare, it’s to completely eliminate the socialism, and the strangling rgulation. Don’t make them pay for everything, and everyne can be responsible for their own retirement. And the argument that they paid into the system, can easily be countered by them taking right back out of the system, leaving nothing for the next generation who has also been paying and won’t see a dime. I know it’s not popular among many of the back patters here on FR but the fact is that the youth aren’t protesting because they’re lazy. They’re protesting because no matter how hard they work, only a very select few (those who already had connections), will be able to cut through the red tape and be able to earn their own living (ie. start their own businesses).
Free up the culture, and people like to work. People like to work and to receive greater and greater yields. When people work harder and harder, and get taxed and regulated back down to the bottom, they stop wanting to work. Meanwhile, the ones that make it to the top, lobby to ensure no one else can. THAT is the problem with have in this country right now. And until it’s addressed, people will continue to leave both the Democratic and Republican parties. Both are two heads of the same coin. Look at voting on NDAA et ell. We’re all being sold down the river.
The eventual nominee, Newt, Romney, Santorum, or (God forbid) Paul, will have to pick a woman or minority running mate. The optics of two white guys running against Obama will be too much. Personally, I don't care, but I predict that they will choose Bachman, Cain, Palin, West, or maybe Haley, Jindal, or Rubio. No way will they go up against Obama with two white guys.
Well said.
The points about the boomers are too true. I’ve them called “the Worst Generation”. Time will tell but it can’t be too far off.
I would like to add that the degradation of the American family and the wholesale slaughter of the unborn have contributed greatly to our decline as well.
NUTS. Chris Christie is a Romney/Obama clone. Enhanced 2.0 version. Way worse than any currently in the running.
Why Give any more ammo to the dems that our guy will have to wade through.
After SC or FL either Newt or Santorum has to go. We need Odummy spending his Billions now not in Oct, Nov
Newtmentum!!!
Two horns on his head and he would look like the devil. I don’t like him or trust him. He is evil!
Agreed. We, as a nation didn’t lose our morality because of the leftists, or even solely because of the leftist teachers. It came because parent’s quit caring for their children enough to teach them right from wrong. Government can’t, no matter who is in charge. That’s can only come from the parents. Too many were ready to kill their babies so they wouldn’t hamper their rampant sexual lifestyle.
Now we have single parents and welfare moms. Again, take away the socialism, and problems get solved. Government can’t be the daddy if they’re not given the funds to do it. And men and women would have to actually stay together and take responsibility. We’ve been incentivizing divorce too long. Why have a husband/father, when you can take from Obama’s stash. Simple, they won’t. So the next generation doesn’t value fathers either, and on and on. Then mothers think it’s a badge of honor to “do it on their own” while either getting a vast government subsidy, or never actually being home to parent. Or worse, both. The worst of all scenarios!
Why Give any more ammo to the dems that our guy will have to wade through.
After SC or FL either Newt or Santorum has to go. We need Odummy spending his Billions now not in Oct, Nov
If the candidate is Newt, he’s going to have to pick a woman because he’s so weak with the female demographic. And I think he could lose as much of the base as he’d win by piking a more “Establishment acceptable” woman than Palin.
Santorum would have the same deal, but I don’t think there’s a chance he’s the nominee. Mitt may have to add a minority—and supposedly wants Rubio—to offset the racist Mormon meme inm running against Obama. Cain is just a liability without the substance to argue the nominee’s case. But I agree, overall a woman or Hispanic is highly likely.
It would be crazy IMO and a risk Mitt would never take to pick West as a one-term congressman.
Just read this, good for you.
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Romney would be a polite Bush 41 clone, albeit further to the left. If the DemonRats ask for a 10% spending increase, Romney would propose an 8% increase and claim victory. Romney would appoint Souter-like judges with "no litmus test."
Newt is far from perfect, but he had significant conservative accomplishments while Speaker: tax cuts, balanced budget, welfare reform.
With last night's debate, Newt won my vote. I want a president who fights the leftists, be they in Congress or the MSM.
I think Romney’s weaseling about his taxes is hurting him. His answer that he will release them in Apreil (after the primaries) becuase he doesn’t want Obama using them against him in the meantime makes no sense. It sounds like he wants to hide something until after the primaries.
THANKS BE TO GOD for you! I have been at this for HOURS. Got two responses, couldn’t post it in the first place, and freepmailed a dozen posters to take a look at it. NOTHING.
Finally found Katiedidit1 to put it up on the Forum, and she is taking heat for it in my place!
Did that not blow your mind?? I had no idea such dirty tricks have such disastrous potential, and beginning in some districts at our own neighborhood precinct meeting!
The article said that this was going right over the top of our heads. Thank you for reading it.
“FR SLLLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW is an understatment!!!! My head is about to come off! I could not post at all. Got trapped in TOPICS rejecting EVERY single “topic”! Could not overcome it. Gave up and asked another Freeper to post, Erick’s column at redstate.com on Paul posers at precincts. It is on the forum now under, “The Horserace for January 12”.”
Thanks, I need to go check that out. Been going nuts here-—I couldn’t post all afternoon! It seems better now, though.
Mitch Daniels is the same guy who denied one of the House districts in his state a prompt special election after a vacancy occurred. No thanks.
Spot on analysis. Perfectly captured what I was thinking.
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