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To: Seizethecarp
All the legal documents seen so far state Obama was born in Hawaii, even if the state is hiding something, they admit they have documents for him with Sr. listed as his father. Hawaii's official admissions mean something. He has records there.

"and only had his US citizen from his mother with her unitary citizenship at his birth."

I am sorry, but Ann was 18 when she had Barry. The law stated at the time that a girl had to be a resident in the United States for 5 years after the age of 14 in order to confer citizenship status. Ann could not pass her citizenship to her son. His ONLY claim to American Citizenship lay in his birth in Hawaii. Obama sr.'s bigamy is a moot point, the man is dead, any investigation of Sr isn't going to happen. Furthermore Obama HIMSELF admits he was born under the Jurisdiction of Great Britain and the British Nationality Act of 1948. We have to go with Obama's Narrative of HIMSELF, that or he has to CHANGE HIS NARRATIVE! Do you see him doing that?? I sure don't.

"The existence of a divorce document (which I will stipulate) does not PROVE the existence of a marriage. "

I am sorry but this is just bad logic. No court nullifies any legal document which didn't exist. Furthermore Ann's lawyer eventually became the DNC Lawyer in Hawaii. If there was a legal divorce, then there was a legal marriage.

The fact that Obama's lawyer is trying to squash the subpoena in the way they are is a sign that Barry doesn't have much in the tank. Clinton v. Jones saw SCOTUS decide that a POTUS MUST deal with Civil lawsuits and have no immunity from them. I do have some hope.
77 posted on 01/19/2012 12:24:45 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae
I am sorry, but Ann was 18 when she had Barry. The law stated at the time that a girl had to be a resident in the United States for 5 years after the age of 14 in order to confer citizenship status. Ann could not pass her citizenship to her son.

I have mentioned this before. It is my understanding that your claim above applies ONLY if the child is born out of the country. There are no age requirements for the mother if the child is born in the United States.

81 posted on 01/19/2012 12:39:11 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Danae
“All the legal documents seen so far state Obama was born in Hawaii, even if the state is hiding something, they admit they have documents for him with Sr. listed as his father. Hawaii's official admissions mean something. He has records there.”

Obama’s legal team has scrupulously evaded entering any of these alleged documents into evidence in court.

Gov. Abercrombie couldn't find them for the longest time, Gov. Lingle lied about the existence and availability of the long form, as did other HI DOH officials.

The president's own lawyer won't let Obama hold the April 27 pdf LFBC image in his own hands. Come on!!!

Something is _seriously_ wrong with the HI documents, as attested by over 20 experts.

83 posted on 01/19/2012 12:45:15 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Danae
“No court nullifies any legal document which didn't exist. Furthermore Ann's lawyer eventually became the DNC Lawyer in Hawaii. If there was a legal divorce, then there was a legal marriage.”

In theory, this should be correct. In the real world? Not so much, in my observation.

There is one page missing from the divorce file. In theory BOTH the original marriage license AND Barry's BC should have been in the divorce file, yet only one is missing.

Given the primacy that family court's give to “the best interest of the children” and Barry's continuing “right to privacy” my money is on the missing page being some sort of BC for Barry.

This would leave the marriage license as missing.

It is entirely possible that the court accepted the claims in the sworn divorce filing by SADO that she was married and failure of BHO Sr. to object when he had the chance as sufficient evidence of the marriage.

I do not believe that I was required to provide a state marriage license from TN to the divorce court in TX for my divorce there, but each state is different.

Again, a bigamous marriage is a nullity (did not ever exist) regardless of subsequent divorce proceedings.

95 posted on 01/19/2012 1:13:29 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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