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To: DiogenesLamp
"It is that stamp and access to similar birth documents which convinces me it was created by DOH Hawaii."

Intriguing theory. Isn't the :) in the Alvin Onaka part of the stamp at the very least an an element of an over-the-top eff-u document by a taxpayer-funded (presuming the DOH creation involvement) department? Additionally, the "x" being in place of the "h" in the word "The" of that "stamp" is highly suspect, as far as the "stamp" on a pdf goes. Setting those aside, as my Japanese friends are wont to say, "Lazed Seeru, wa?"

140 posted on 01/20/2012 1:53:12 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama" Eligibility: Don't let 'em (continue to) get away with it.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Intriguing theory. Isn't the :) in the Alvin Onaka part of the stamp at the very least an an element of an over-the-top eff-u document by a taxpayer-funded (presuming the DOH creation involvement) department? Additionally, the "x" being in place of the "h" in the word "The" of that "stamp" is highly suspect, as far as the "stamp" on a pdf goes. Setting those aside, as my Japanese friends are wont to say, "Lazed Seeru, wa?"

My Knowledge of Japanese extends to just a few words, and none of those are them. :)

The "smiley face" could be an artifact of the stamp. The "x" could as well, but it seems less likely. However, those two quirks seem to be too much to hang an external (to the DOH Hawaii) forgery on. Also I would point out that DOH Hawaii is not asserting the document is fake, which I would expect them to do were it created by a third party.

THEY may have a right to create fake replacement documents, but no one else does, and I don't see them sitting still for it.

I just find the risk involved for all parties to be so much greater if it isn't a legal forgery. The probabilities all stack up in the direction of it being a legal forgery created by DOH Hawaii. That is the simplest explanation which covers everything.

There is also the reluctance of Obama's lawyer to let anyone see the original from Hawaii. I highly suspect there may be something on the back of it which clearly indicates it is a replacement birth document for an adopted child, or some such. A lawyer does not take such efforts to control what can be viewed on a document unless he has some concern about someone discerning something he doesn't want them to see.

That's the other thing. I cannot see a lawyer attaching his credibility (and his possible future as a lawyer) so tightly to a document which he knows to be forged. It would cost him EVERYTHING if it were discovered.

Again, the ONLY sensible explanation is THAT DOCUMENT was created by Hawaii DOH, and it is a LEGAL forgery. (with mistakes.)

155 posted on 01/20/2012 6:25:53 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; Danae; Red Steel; Fantasywriter

Just a random thought here.

Perhaps the forger did the little smiley face and “X” to snare the DOH? Meaning, since the smiley face and “X” show without a doubt the thing is a forgery - over the top obvious - what to speak of all the other proof, the forger and accomplices now have the DOH over a barrel. The DOH never complained at the time, and are now therefore “partners in crime” up to their eyeballs. The DOH cannot now disavow any of it. They have to continue in the forgery crime spree. They’re chained to it.


205 posted on 01/20/2012 11:04:29 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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