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Obama argues against appearing at eligibility hearing (says GA has NO role in eligibility)
World Net Daily ^ | January 18, 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/19/2012 7:23:55 AM PST by Seizethecarp

Barack Obama has outlined a defense strategy for a multitude of state-level challenges to his candidacy on the 2012 presidential ballot in a Georgia case that is scheduled to come before a judge later this month – simply explain that states have nothing to do with the eligibility of presidential candidates.

“Presidential electors and Congress, not the state of Georgia, hold the constitutional responsibility for determining the qualifications of presidential candidates,” Obama’s lawyer argues in a motion to quash a subpoena for him to appear at the hearings Jan. 26.

“The election of President Obama by the presidential electors, confirmed by Congress, makes the documents and testimony sought by plaintiff irrelevant,” the lawyer said.

Hearing have been scheduled for that date for three separate issues to be handled. They all are raised by Georgia residents who are challenging Obama’s name on the 2012 ballot for various reasons, which they are allowed to do under state law.

It is states, usually through the office of secretary of state, that run elections, not the federal government. The national election is simply a compilation of the results of the individual elections within states.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ballot; certifigate; ga; naturalborncitizen; obama; orlytaitz; usurper
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To: Seizethecarp

Emperor Obama has no clothes. If I were the judge, this whole line of defense would make me curious why ‘the lady doth protest too much’.


21 posted on 01/19/2012 7:52:49 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Seizethecarp
The US Congress is what needs fixing.

It was Congress that screwed America's greatest hero over ... leading to his departure from America.

22 posted on 01/19/2012 7:53:10 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: Seizethecarp

The jack booted thugs strike again.


23 posted on 01/19/2012 7:53:10 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man; LucyT
“The Orly Circus is setting up tents in Georgia. Fun for the whole family.”

Taitz has brought only one of the three separated cases that will each have their own hearing on Jan 26.

It would appear that there is zero chance that Obama would be compelled to appear...because by simply having his attorney enter into the court record a certified copy of his HI LFBC that matter could be put to rest.

Yet Obama’s attorney says that rather than perform that obvious simple legal administrative act...he is only directing the court to look to the White House pdf image “made available” to the public on the web.

Obama’s attorney is, in effect, admitting what we all know which is that Obama has NEVER submitted a certified copy of either a long form or short form HI BC to any court. Obama has repeatedly put layers of legal distance between his White House pdf and HI DOH and distance between Obama personally and the White House pdf. Obama’s attorney wouldn't even let Obama hold the thing at the April 27 press conference and said so!!!

Gee...now why would that be???

24 posted on 01/19/2012 7:53:53 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

What about the fraudulent Documents of Certification Nancy Pelosi and Alice Travis Germond- Sec. of the DNC are responsible for?
Have those subpoenaed-—Were the electors in each state mislead by them?

“DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF HAWAII REMOVED REQUIRED ELIGIBILITY WORDING USED IN 2004 AND 2000”

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/11/19/hawaii-elections-office-releases-nomination-certificates-requested-four-months-ago/


25 posted on 01/19/2012 7:56:44 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Seizethecarp
I got no problem with what Van Irion is trying to accomplish.

Orly's conspiracy nuttery is embarrassing.

26 posted on 01/19/2012 7:59:14 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: MrB

minorities and gays are the cool ones now, the rest of us are total dorks who need to be mistreated


27 posted on 01/19/2012 7:59:35 AM PST by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Seizethecarp

I believe the case in Ga. is based upon Obama not being a Natural Born citizen.

Obama has no case because he isn’t a NBC.

There is no way Obama can win so he chooses to write off Ga.


28 posted on 01/19/2012 8:03:47 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Seizethecarp

What a joke. He claims to be too busy performing the duties of the president of the United States. How many days of vacation has he taken? How many rounds of golf? If he is too busy to provide the documents that provide the basis for meeting the requirements of the office, then perhaps he better sit out the next four years,


29 posted on 01/19/2012 8:05:47 AM PST by LC Gladiator (Barack Obama is a malevolent Marxist cockroach and a foul festering pustule on the hide of America.)
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To: Mr. K
Geez... you would think it would be easier to just show his birth certificate...

He dare not. It would "hang" him.

30 posted on 01/19/2012 8:05:52 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Mr. K

Yes, it would be easier to show a physical copy of the alleged birth certificate(s) in court. It’s a very standard document that is considered self-authenticating, but that’ only if it can be inspected personally. There’s probably a good reason why Obama is fighting this, and that reason is to cover up fraud.


31 posted on 01/19/2012 8:06:10 AM PST by edge919
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To: traditional1
In the end, it may come down to him having to admit that SOMEONE OTHER THAN Barack Hussein Obama Sr., and could be Frank Marshall Davis, or some other black "partner" to the white woman.

That would be devastating, because it would be an admission that the released Hawaiian "birth certificate" was a lie promoted to the public.

32 posted on 01/19/2012 8:09:31 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: traditional1; Spaulding; Danae; rxsid; LucyT; Red Steel; Kenny Bunk
“In the end, it may come down to him having to admit that SOMEONE OTHER THAN Barack Hussein Obama Sr., and could be Frank Marshall Davis, or some other black “partner” to the white woman.”

Remember that the NY Times Corp reporter was allowed to issue the book “The Other Barack” (IIRC) in which INS docs the author had been withholding were revealed showing that BHO Sr. was a bigamous sexual predator who was kicked out of the US?

The BNA of 1948 does not allow UK citizenship to pass to the bastard children of bigamists in my reading. Neither does the Kenya Marriage Act recognize the alleged marriage of Obama's parents as a legal Muslim plural marriage. If Stanley Ann was legally single, my understanding of established international law is that Obama would ONLY have unitary US citizenship of his mother and no legal father and would certainly NOT be dual citizen UK subject in that case.

Obama would not meet the “two citizen” requirement of Minor v. Happersett, but more importantly he would not meet John Jay and George Washington's underlying concern regarding dual citizenship because Obama would have only US citizenship...provided that he was born in HI (Ha!)

Until the 1920's the citizenship of only one parent mattered, that being the father, because the citizenship of the wife was automatically changed to that of the husband. It could be argued that if a child only has one legal parent at birth, that being the mother, then that child would be a natural born citizen at birth if born on US soil. If Obama only had US citizenship at birth in HI, my expectation is that at least five justices on the Supreme Court would give Obama a Mulligan on his natural born citizenship eligibility...if it came to that.

33 posted on 01/19/2012 8:10:30 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Pearls Before Swine
"That would be devastating"

You know, as well as most common sense folks, that NOTHING could be devastating to The Messiah, as far as black voters are concerned (75% of them don't know WHO their father is).

He will still get the votes he always gets, from Progressives/parasites/minorities/and white-guilters.

34 posted on 01/19/2012 8:13:00 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: yldstrk
I thought the Electoral College would straighten it out in 2008 but no one had any courage

Not just a lack of courage, but a lack of Knowledge. The public (And that means the Electors) has a faulty understanding of "natural born citizen" status. They would not have thought to challenge it because they have a wrong understanding of what it means, and based on the very weak evidence Obama has submitted that he was born in Hawaii, they would not even think to question his credentials.

Apart from that, I don't believe Democrat electors give a D@mn about Law or Justice or Constitutional requirements, and I have no doubt they will overlook anything which disqualifies their candidate.

35 posted on 01/19/2012 8:14:54 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Seizethecarp
Sounds like a "gay" argument, in that it is biologically impossible NOT to have a father.

Therefore, the religious aspect is not an issue (whether the "marriage" was legal), and the plain language "born of a Citizen mother and Citizen father") eliminates "single parenthood", formerly known as "slut", "trollop", "tramp", etc.

36 posted on 01/19/2012 8:16:28 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: traditional1
Or the reason he wont release his BC is because his race is listed as ARAB!

So his baby daddy was one or another black man. So what.

His race listed as other than Negro would severely damage his plantation base vote!

37 posted on 01/19/2012 8:18:50 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: edge919
Not sure Obama has official provided his BC to anyone, just posted on the Internet.

I am not a lawyer, but if it is such a legit document -they put on coffee mugs, then what is the problem submitting it to a court. It seems to be the only conclusion. Avoid having it scrutinized and fraud.

38 posted on 01/19/2012 8:19:27 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Why not just exhume his supposed father for a quickie DNA sample?


39 posted on 01/19/2012 8:19:54 AM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
That would be devastating, because it would be an admission that the released Hawaiian "birth certificate" was a lie promoted to the public.

If the Judge is astute enough to demand an "original", and that Original deviates even slightly from what has been posted, the ramifications of it will have repercussions throughout the country. It will PROVE Obama lied about this affair, and it will result in people having second thoughts about their earlier dismissal of this issue.

It could very well create a political avalanche that might bury this @sshole. (And give some comeuppance to all those Republicans/conservatives who have pooh poohed the issue.)

40 posted on 01/19/2012 8:21:58 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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