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To: metmom

“I would suggest that you don’t know what you’re talking about.”

I wonder if they teach manners at public school? Because if you’re responsible for teaching your kids manners, you may want to consider public school for them.

And variables, they may need some assistance there. I didn’t present what I claimed to be an exhaustive list of variables, I simply enumerated a few. You supervising your children’s consumption of popular culture is a huge mitigating factor that one can assume doesn’t happen for a majority of public school students.

But, you have your mind made up, public schools are evil, and produce nothing but godless morons. Don’t allow me to get in the way of your reality.


78 posted on 01/19/2012 2:05:18 PM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: brownsfan
Reality is that if you came out of the public education system reasonably intact, it wasn't because of them, it was in spite of them.

There but for the grace of God.........

But, you have your mind made up, public schools are evil, and produce nothing but godless morons. Don’t allow me to get in the way of your reality.

That is the reality of the public education system and it isn't getting any better. In some locales, the graduation rate is about half the student body and of those graduating, all it means is that they stuck it out, not that they were educated.

Considering the level of literacy I see in the product of the public education system, it's failing miserably and has been for decades.

Anyone who gets out reasonably intact needs to drop to their knees and thank God for protecting them through it all.

92 posted on 01/19/2012 4:24:26 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: brownsfan; metmom
and produce nothing but godless morons.

This is a strawman, a debating tactic used frequently by liberal/Marxists and government school defenders. Metmom said absolutely ***NOTHING ***of the kind! How can anyone defend a strawman of your creation?

But, you have your mind made up, public schools are evil,

What school did you attend that taught you to how to read metmom's heart and mind? Hm?

But...I will make eminently clear for you regarding **my** personal opinion of the government schools. It is evil to force children into indoctrination centers where just to cooperate with the godless classroom and godless curriculum they must think and reason godlessly. How could it be otherwise? It is evil for government to force citizens to pay for this abominable establishment of godless secular humanism.

Personally I consider it **evil** to force children ( all those whose parents can not pay the jizya to rescue them) into socialist schools where they risk learning to be comfortable with socialism! It is evil to force citizens to pay for the socialist conditioning of children.

Personally, I consider it sooooooo evil for the children, and such a threat to our nation's continuing freedom, that recently I have made a decision. I will NOT have a government teacher for a friend. I won't have people who work in abortion centers as friends either. In one case they abort little bodies. In the other case, they attempt to abort child's souls. Personally, I am DONE with government teachers. I feel that strongly about it.

So there! There will be no need for you to read my mind and heart or create strawman. I hope it is **clear** to you. That is my personal opinion about our nation's evil system of godless socialist schools.

97 posted on 01/19/2012 4:49:43 PM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: brownsfan
Because if you’re responsible for teaching your kids manners, you may want to consider public school for them.

I would suggest you might not have been so fond of the 'manners' common in the public schools I attended. They never said 'thank you' if they beat the crap out of someone and stole their lunch money.

Parochial school kids were much more polite and far less larcenous.

102 posted on 01/19/2012 7:34:14 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: brownsfan
But, you have your mind made up, public schools are evil, and produce nothing but godless morons

No, some produce very intelligent godless people, too.

But the bottom line is that the public schools do not produce people who believe in Christianity--that influence has to come from elsewhere, because seldom is the mention of God so much as tolerated in the public school systems nowadays.

It is parents' influences, relatives, or their peers who influence children to embrace Christ, not the schools.

What we are seeing, however cannot be solely laid at the feet of the school system--it is the parents who have failed to overcome the secular humanist indoctrination, as daunting as that task may be.

That requires spending time with your children, leading by example, and making sure they get the foundation in Christ they will need to make wiser choices in spite of the schools' curriculae and peer pressure.

104 posted on 01/19/2012 8:08:45 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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