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Just saw this mentioned of Charley Rose, PBS. Mitt is toast. This will not go over well with women, heck, it's not going over well with me. "Papa don't preach, I'm keepin' my baby!"
1 posted on 01/17/2012 10:08:22 PM PST by ynotjjr
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Romney has already admitted he called Utah to decide
events in Massachusetts under his thumb.

Stakepresident Bishop Romney knows where the power
over his shapeshifting facade does lie.


2 posted on 01/17/2012 10:12:36 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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Just like with McCain..as soon as Romney is the nominee..all kinds of things will come out and his religion will become a major major issue with the MSM. Every weird story about Mormons will be given a special 30 minutes.
In a way he is the Manchurian Candidate..nominated by the MSM so that they then can kill him off and keep their own man in power.


3 posted on 01/17/2012 10:14:14 PM PST by Oldexpat
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Really ? Is this the best they can do ? Sounds like she kept the baby so wheres the story ?

More crack from the media crack heads. Whats really wrong with Mitt wont come from them..

4 posted on 01/17/2012 10:19:32 PM PST by Nonstatist
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“In that moment, she also felt intimidated. Here was Romney, who held great power as her church leader and was the head of a wealthy, prominent Belmont family, sitting in her gritty apartment making grave demands.”

I'm confused, she was divorced and then became pregnant? What the hell did she expect would come of having one child and then another out of wedlock? Of course adoption makes sense. She was intimidated by the frankness and having to confront the situation on adult terms.

5 posted on 01/17/2012 10:23:27 PM PST by newzjunkey (Imbecilic early voters doom us all.)
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You need to get a grip.

She had one child already. And divorced. She was foolish enough to engage in behavior that resulted in another pregnancy. Keeping the second child in her circumstance is a childish and selfish act, not in the newborn's best interest. As faith leader who had helped her considerably by her own admission, Romney expressed the adult viewpoint embraced by their church. She betrayed the Romney's kindness by getting herself pregnant again. If it doesn't go over well with "women" they have no business having children or casting votes because they lack the capacity for adult thought and are trapped in perpetual adolescence.

7 posted on 01/17/2012 10:32:54 PM PST by newzjunkey (Imbecilic early voters doom us all.)
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I have a Mormon friend (since High School) who is going through something similar. She is divorced twice, 4 kids. Rather than have an abortion when she got pregnant out of wedlock (to cover up her sin), she decided to have the baby and keep it.

She is now being excommunicated by the Mormon church for her decision.


9 posted on 01/17/2012 10:37:14 PM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I'm the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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Excuse me, but NOBODY has the right to tell a woman to give her child up for adoption. It doesn’t matter if it is something her church wants or not. She got pregnant and didn’t kill it. Why doesn’t the Morman church support LIFE??? I am a Catholic and have heard many many people say how awful the church is in their views, but they would not kick someone out because the decided to keep their own child.

Yes, the woman made bad choices, but wants to own up to them and take care of her responsibilities. She didn’t ask for a handout, she asked for work to earn her way.

I can’t believe some of the comments some of you have made, it makes me sick.....


10 posted on 01/17/2012 10:52:08 PM PST by mrsadams
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Who was the father of the child? You’d think that might be important to know.


20 posted on 01/18/2012 5:31:15 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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I am reminded of my parents, who were raised in a time where real racism existed. It didn't matter what the situation was, but it the person was black or mexican they would curl up their lip and bare their teeth, and I expected them to spit one of these days. Thankfully I understood where they came from, observed that it was wrong, and was able to remove most of that racism from my generation.

I see some of that in this story and the comments following. The hatred of Romney and his mormonism is so strong that this story is presented as a major negative. The headline suggests something much worse than the actual fact. With so many claiming that Romney is an anti-life baby killer, this article seems to suggest that really isn't the case (at least at the time of this story).

I would appear to me that this is one point on the anti-abortion side for Romney. Alas, there are a lot of points on the other side for him, too. But only the folks looking for something to hate see this story as a bad thing.

22 posted on 01/18/2012 5:39:11 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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After returning to the congregation as a 23-year-old divorced single mother, she soon got pregnant with a second child. Knowing she was in need of financial assistance, the Romneys arranged for her to do odd jobs for members of the congregation.

1) She returns to the congregation as a single mom.

2) Not making it financially as a single mom, she depends on the church to help her make ends meet.

3) She gets pregnant out of wedlock, which means her financial dependency would increase, as she would be even less able to work while caring for a baby.

4) Mitt tells her that she cannot expect the church to subsidize her bad choices any further. She cannot support a new baby. She should give it up for adoption.

If I was in Mitt's position, I would have done the same. Failure to enforce expecting responsibility will doom any group.

23 posted on 01/18/2012 6:47:08 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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There are two things the law should for the child of a single mother — to get married, or to have the child adopted.

Single motherhood is a criminal activity. As most crimes left unchecked do, social tolerance for single motherhood bears serious and continuing harm for a society. It is an incredibly corrosive thing.

Historically, single motherhood has been a crime under common and statute law. There is good reason why it is a crime.

It is NOT a good thing in our times that single motherhood is tolerated, supported, even celebrated.

Look at how this very article raises up the cult of the victim, victimology, of single motherhood. Good and historically-knowledgeable men and women who cross this cult are branded as heretics who must be driven out of the society. That is like banning fire alarms and fire departments because the alarms and sirens are just so bothersome and irritating.


25 posted on 01/18/2012 6:56:38 AM PST by bvw
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34 posted on 01/18/2012 10:09:03 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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35 posted on 01/18/2012 10:10:16 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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36 posted on 01/18/2012 10:11:28 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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Sick..just sick. Messiah did not teach this kind of stuff.

Everything about Romney just oozes out that he is a complete egomaniac, arrogant-to-the-max, control freak who is convinced he is an up and coming G-d. It probably gave him a tingle to scare the “little woman” to death. You can't believe in an omnipotent universal creator master G-d if you think you are a G-d..and you can't serve two masters.

Romney does not act anything like the Mormons I know. This man oozes a level of dark arrogance that is through the roof. It's disgusting And I hate to say it but every time I see his wife and sons they look just like an abused family would look if they had to put on a face for the camera.

The man is not just fake..underneath he is eerie. Others have said he seems deceptive..like a used car salesman..I'm thinking he is more of a dark shadows kind character..profoundly sinister.

I CAN NOT BELIEVE ANY PART OF MY PARTY IS CONSIDERING THIS SLEAZEBALL!

37 posted on 01/18/2012 10:15:09 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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No formal training in a theological seminary.

No formal training in marital or family counseling.

No formal training of any kind to prepare him as the “bishop” of his ward.

And yet, here he is, a “lay” leader giving “counsel” to an unwed mother.

So he whips out his handy-dandy Church Handbook of Instructions and when the troubleshooting tree doesn’t address this situation, he calls SLC for the answer.

This action (if true) by Romney and SLC contradicts mormon beliefs that all spirit children “choose” their families here on earth.

So they essentially “blackmail” her into giving up her child by threatening her membership in the church.


41 posted on 01/18/2012 10:41:42 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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Mitt Romney Pressured Single Mother To Give Up Baby, Book Says

Well at LEAST he didn't tell her to Pray to GOD to see if she should ABORT the baby. (Did he?)

47 posted on 01/18/2012 2:12:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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