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Americans keep their clunkers longer (10.8 Years)
CNN ^ | 01/17/2012 | Peter Valdes-Dapena

Posted on 01/17/2012 1:39:47 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The average vehicle on America's roads is almost 11 years old, according to the auto market analysts at Polk.

The 10.8-year average is the highest figure recorded since Polk began tracking vehicle age in 1995. Back then, the average was just 8.4 years.

Vehicle age has increased rapidly over the last five years as new vehicle sales have slowed. Polk's analysis is based on vehicle registration data.

Older cars represent an opportunity for some businesses.

"Dealer service departments and independent repair facilities, as well as aftermarket parts suppliers, will see increased business opportunity with customers in need of vehicle service," said Mark Seng, global aftermarket practice leader at Polk.

With vehicles getting older, fewer cars are covered under their original factory warranty, said Seng. That presents a challenge for auto dealers to bring those customers back into the dealership service department.

The number of cars under warranty is now the lowest it's been in the last 12 to 15 years, he said, and drivers whose cars aren't under warranty tend not to go to the dealer.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bitter; cars; clingers; clunkers; old
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To: vette6387
My next car, whenever that is, will be an American vehicle, whatever that means now.

BMW, Honda, Mercedes, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Suburu, Isuzu, Toyota and Tesla all have plants in the USA.

101 posted on 01/17/2012 4:18:43 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: nascarnation
Now I need to go buy a Corvette, LOL.

At least you got your priorities right.

102 posted on 01/17/2012 4:19:58 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: passionfruit

“Our pickup Truck is a 1995 Dodge ram 2500 (Cummons Turbo Diesel engine).”

Did the paint job go to hell after a few years?


103 posted on 01/17/2012 4:22:35 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Woodman

As a recently retired automotive engr, I can attest that we HAVE learned a few things in 40 yrs.


104 posted on 01/17/2012 4:25:52 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Paladin2

In my driveway:

1976 Chevy 1 ton dually 454 gas engine truck with Granny low 4 speed with over 341,000 miles on it.

1979 Buick station wagon which has over 197,000 with Old 403 engine.

1974 2 horse Navajo straight load trailer.

2001 4 horse slant load Thurobilt trailer.

Will keep fixing & replacing as necessary.

Replaced the brake booster in the Buick in Nov. Was the original....


105 posted on 01/17/2012 4:30:57 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Rebelbase

“Did the paint job go to hell after a few years?”

Yeah. Dark Green.

Oh my gosh, it’s horrible! The truck runs like a champ, and has always done everything we’ve asked of it. It is a workhorse, but a damned ugly one with the paint so badly oxidized. Then the headliner started sagging to the point I had to cut it out. The paint on my Durango (white) is holding up fine. but the headliner is starting to fall in the Durango now too.


106 posted on 01/17/2012 4:46:49 PM PST by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: nascarnation
I sure as hell wouldn't want to have an offset collision in any car built before the mid to late 80’s vs another modern car. I think a 57 vs a 57 is a world apart from a 57 vs a car designed to fold while maintaining a cage.
107 posted on 01/17/2012 4:47:23 PM PST by Woodman
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To: nascarnation
But I got the obligatory my 57 will squash anything on the road today like a gnat. Meanwhile the driver will be impaled on the steering column if the engine hasn't shoved him into the back seat first.
108 posted on 01/17/2012 4:50:34 PM PST by Woodman
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To: Woodman

Yes crash worthiness has improved immensely.

I work on 60s cars a lot as a retirement hobby. People romanticize about the styling, but don’t realize the design and quality was suspect in a lot of parts.

I’d much rather have a big wreck in my 2012 Cruze than my 67 Camaro.


109 posted on 01/17/2012 4:59:23 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Just turned my 98 F-150 over 200K coming home from work today!


110 posted on 01/17/2012 5:11:41 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Go Steelers (what's the baseball team called again?))
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

OK the break-in period is over.
:- )


111 posted on 01/17/2012 5:13:12 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: nascarnation

I’d much rather have a big wreck in my 2012 Cruze than my 67 Camaro.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

For sure.

Have you seen this? 59 Chev. vs. 09 Chev.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joMK1WZjP7g


112 posted on 01/17/2012 5:32:30 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: ridesthemiles
I used to "work" with 454s (including the 454SS) at GM for a few years in the late 80's. I always wanted a 454 m/t 4x4 Suburban, but they never made one.

Big blocks vs. turbocharged Small Blocks? How about a turboed Big Block? (WOW, I could'a had a V-8.)

Tons of fun.

113 posted on 01/17/2012 5:32:51 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Responsibility2nd

We have three cars.

1987 Toyota Camry

1990 Honda Civic

1981 Toyota Corolla

We have never owned a new car, all of these were bought or given to us second hand. Cost of upkeep is low, insurance, low, gas mileage, good.

Someday, I’d like my husband to have a brand new car, but who knows when that might be.


114 posted on 01/17/2012 5:36:27 PM PST by Jvette
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To: Woodman
After my wife went off road and rolled a 4-dr compact car into a field rather than take a head-on on icy road, I got her a four corner leaf-spring, 2 solid axle 4x4 Suburban so she could drive over the "competition", if necessary.

It was great as we could easily see over the traffic until the inevitable proliferation of a higher concentration of SUVs. Now the trick is to live and drive in lower density rural areas and stay the heck away from everyone else.

115 posted on 01/17/2012 5:39:34 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
I was specifically talking about cars, not trucks. However, I'm almost sure you'll agree that you would rather have an accident in that Suburban than a 1960’s or 1950’s Suburban. As far as where you end up in an ice related accident, very seldom can the driver have much influence where they will end up.
116 posted on 01/17/2012 5:50:20 PM PST by Woodman
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To: nascarnation
I find that the cars of the 60's had a much better people package. Better vision & more internal room.

Lotsa stuff was worse (tires, small suspension bushings, shock life, cheap exhaust material, brakes (too many issues to detail), body corrosion protection, crash performance, fuel economy, body hardware durability, durability in general, steering accuracy, the use of carburetors (with no altitude compensation).

60's vehicles are fun to drive though and the maintenance/repair IS definitely more easier and more straightforward.

117 posted on 01/17/2012 5:51:26 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Yeah I love to work on old stuff.

Cars where you won’t lose tools forever if they’re dropped in the engine compartment (that’s actually happened to me on my 04 Cadillac, LOL).


118 posted on 01/17/2012 6:02:13 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Responsibility2nd

And how long until we start to hear the word “safety”... fascist speak “safety”, pulled out of the file?

Attempting to force-buying seen every commercial “five” minutes?


119 posted on 01/17/2012 6:06:16 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Woodman
"As far as where you end up in an ice related accident, very seldom can the driver have much influence where they will end up. "

Look at where you want to go, not at where the trouble is or will be (e.g. between the trees or vehicles) Don't do anything rash. Never give up. Even on the iciest surface the traction is not zero.

I've had the good fortune to spend some time on isolated ice sheets testing vehicle handling with ABS, Traction Control (way overrated compared to almost all 4x4 systems), and more sophisticated vehicle dynamics control systems. Knowing what you are doing, what you want to do and some experience in your vehicle practicing same are a great advantage. Being lucky is a big plus.

It's a tough world out there, where Physics rulz.

120 posted on 01/17/2012 6:36:10 PM PST by Paladin2
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