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Posted on 01/17/2012 7:44:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind
I cruise a bit, not as much as some, more than others.
I find it a monument to cowardice to see bits of paradise surrendered to the drug cartels, eagerly and with full cooperation. The cruise ships are pulling out of Acapulco, because of a couple thousand gang members. So, we have a city with a population of less than 1 Million, surrendered to drug dealers and gangs with a membership of less than 1,000. The city outnumbers the drug dealers by a ratio of about 100:1. Now, the entire city is going to lose their greatest industry, “tourism”; because of some parasites that the locals seem content to keep around, and actively support.
Until the Mexicans decide to stand up to ‘evil’, and act like a man, instead of cowards - the country will continue to degenerate, and more of Mexico’s favorite ‘imports’ will continue to cross our borders, bringing with them the very problems they chose to flee.
There's a lot of talk comparing the various countries in the area about which is better to travel to and retire in...Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Panama, Honduras, Belize.
The ongoing competition will be good for all countries involved IMO. Costa Rica is renowned for cheap medical care among other things.
THere are no barbed wire fences or machine gun nests at Hedo in Negril. At least there weren’t any as of 6 months ago.
Jamaica sports 2 Hedonism resorts, Hedo 2 and Hedo 3. We were on a cruise ship in Montego Bay, and took an excursion past Hedonism (Runaway Bay) - and you could clearly see the walls with rolls of Barb wire, and “observation” decks every 150 ft around the outer perimeter.
The Negril resort is on the tip of the island, so there may be security that isn’t as blatant, isolating that portion of the island. But, rest assured - there IS security.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonism_Resorts
Just an FYI, Hedo 3 is closing this year. Hedo II is still in operation and I can assure you from first hand experience there are NO armed guards, barbed wire, or machine gun emplacements at Hedo II in Negril.
Nor is the Negril location at the “tip” of the island. Ricks Bar is at the end of 7 Mile Beach. Hedo II is located in between the Grand Lido and Beaches IIRC. There are fences between the two, but no barbed wire to be seen.
There is a hired Security staff but none of them carry weapons. Jamaica is a very different place than it was 10 years ago. There’s crime alright, but it’s much more organized and preying on tourists is frowned upon. It’s bad for business. Oh one can get oneself in trouble to be sure. But if you’re not completely stupid Jamaica is a wonderful place to visit.
Best,
L
I went to Sandals in Jamaica back in the late 1989 with my wife. We saved for over a year for the vacation.
Worst vacation of my life - period.
It was akin to being held hostage.
We were imprisoned on the resort, with menacing crowds gathered outside the barbed wire. Inside was no better. The local restaurant, bar, and hotel staff stalked the guests, hitting them up for money, goods, food, etc. If you were Canadian they harassed you to no end to sponsor them to immigrate. If you gave the staff money to leave you alone, they sometimes did, but more often than not came around with more of their friends to shake you down and guilt trip you about how rich you were vs. them.
The trips outside were like going into a war zone. Crowds of beggars and thugs hawking useless souvenirs mobbed you at every turn. The place was literally an open sewer.
Wife and I went in 1995 to the north west coast Sandals, Negril.
Absolutely perfect, no hassle, no hangers, no beggers, no nothing.peaceful on the beach, multitude of stuff to do.
Went into town, hiked up a mountain, went horseback riding in the interior, generally had an excellent time, all inclusive trip. catching rays on the beach in a hammock with a pina colada machine 3 feet away was too cool. Excellent food and drinks all day and night, poolside, formal, leasure, or on the sand. Had a blast for a week.
We stayed just to the left (west) at
Sandals, in Negril, no wire, no baltant security, no hassle anywhere on the grounds.
Please send me a full report.
Are you going on a tour or just going?
I have the urge to just go, rent a car and see the country
I am glad your experience was better than ours.
It really was a terrible time - when we left I felt as if the return trip had been negotiated by a hostage rescue team. We were leaving enemy territory.
I have never, and will never, take another hedonistic-themed vacation again. Back then, we drank, but I no longer do. Most of the guests were sloshed all the time. But that didn't bother me as much as the patronizing games practiced in the barbed wire compound known as Sandals Resort. From the loudspeaker, came shrieks of "Players!!! Oh Players! Beautiful Players!!! Time for beach volley ball!!! Come Players!!"
It was like being in a Potemkin village.
Hurricane Gilbert had hit the island in the past year, so they were dealing with that, but this had been my second trip to Jamaica, and I vowed I would never, ever go back.
Vacations today (to us) are low key affairs. We lived in Europe for 4 years, and loved that. When we vacationed there it was in a small cabin or cottage. I will never again go to a Third World Country for a "vacation."
Ah, yes they do. Little Honda 50/150 cc scooters, right off the port. If your cruise ship docks there, it's pretty hard to miss them.
Glad you enjoyed it. Took my parents with us in 2009; it wasn’t good.
Glad you enjoyed it, but we’ll spend our time and money on less lush (Jamaica is a beautiful island, no question) place like the Bahamas, Caymans and the dwindling number of islands that still feel ‘safe’.
Our experience on Jamaica wasn’t as pleasureable as yours.
Because 13.1% unemployment is a good thing, and
Current concerns include the country's heavy foreign debt burden, high unemployment, growing involvement in the Mexican and South American drug trade, high crime rates, and one of the highest prevalence rates of HIV/AIDS in Central America.
Not to fear, Belize's greatest problem is their CULTURE, as their culture discourages education and achievement, and promotes the fast, easy dollar without the impediment of ethics, morals or laws. Hence, they are their own worst enemy. Whereas, you will find the exact opposite in the Caymans - and surprisingly, for some weird reason, they don't have these types of problems. What an amazing coincidence < /s>
I believe that the more your visit and familiarize yourself with the western Caribbean and the Pacific Gold Coast, the more you will realize that many of the challenges you cite are superficial rather than deep-seated.
Their resolution lies not in Caymanizing places like Belize (i.e., turning them into Potemkin tourist traps), but in helping the very industrious and decent people in the western Caribbean and Pacific Gold Coast countries develop vibrant free market economies. That’s what I am doing in the countries in which I am blessed to have influence.
Two quick points: (1) Don’t take everything the US government tells you about the countries south of our border at face value. (2) If you have some extra money to invest, buy up all of the land you can in countries like Honduras, Belize, El Salvador, and Guatemala.
I wish I still had money to invest, as there are some stunningly beautiful spots of land I’d love to own.
However, my personal philosophy is different than yours. I do not believe anyone, outside of Jesus and God working in concert (even then, we are talking about generations) can fix the problems. You could drop 100 yrs worth of the USA’s GDP into Belize alone, and you wouldn’t fix anything. It’s a cultural issue, and it’s just that simple.
People work to the point of personal satisfaction, sort of a “How good is ‘good enough’?”. Our culture in America is that it’s never ‘good enough’, hence we build faster and faster computers, advance medical science, improve technology, efficiency, production, et. al. This is the anti-thesis we see in other countries, where the attitude is “I’ll take the hand-outs, the used and discarded technologies from the giants; why not? It’s nearly free, requires no real effort, and they feel guilty, which means I don’t have to work as hard”.
We see this in South America all the time. Why are they discovering Aztec and Mayan ruins? Is it the search of archeology and the pursuit of science? Nope ... people are chopping down trees looking for Chicle. The idea of growing this agricultural parasite as a crop has apparently not yet occured to them. But, chopping down large expanses of jungle is easier. As they go chopping and harvesting the Chicle, they stumble upon ruins.
South America has rich natural resources (oil, minerals, mining); yet less blessed countries are blowing past them in the world market (India, China, S. Korea). Why? Because their culture does not value education, hard work, industy and technology. It’s sad; but this is a change that no amount of investment will cure. It must come from within; and given the route that South America has chosen over the past couple generations, it’s not going to get much better - which is really pathetic.
I’m an engineer, if it were safe, if the gov’t wasn’t so corrupt - you would have no problem getting people like me to relocate to Belize, Mexico, Jamaica, Bahamas, Honduras to work in a technolgoy based company. Seriously, if MSFT, Intel, Freescalel, IBM, Apple, Dell and other tech companies opened plants in these countries - can you imagine the influx of technology that would propel their economies into the stratosphere? Who wouldn’t want to live in an island paradise? Unfortuately, this will likely never happen in our lifetimes - not due from a lack of opportunity, but due to the risk of these companies being robbed blind by corrupt officials.
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