Posted on 01/16/2012 8:15:21 AM PST by Bigtigermike
The latest Insider Advantage / Newsmax poll of likely South Carolina voters, taken on Sunday, shows Mitt Romney opening up a commanding 11-point lead… and that was before Jon Huntsman dropped out of the race and endorsed Romney. Hell, Huntsman’s still a point ahead of Rick Perry in this poll.
Mitt Romney - 32
Newt Gingrich - 21
Ron Paul - 14
Rick Santorum – 13
Jon Huntsman – 6
Rick Perry – 5
Strangely, according to the poll breakdown, Newt Gingrich scored exactly zero among the youngest cohort of voters, ages 18-29. Ron Paul and Rick Santorum were tied among that group, with 27 percent each.
This poll has a fairly small sample of 720 respondents, but they’re “likely voters,” generally the most reliable group. If the results are accurate, it looks as if that “tightening race” in South Carolina has loosened back up, and undecided voters are starting to break for Romney. If Huntsman’s endorsement sends some of his supporters Romney’s way, and he holds the enormous 22-point lead Rasmussen found for him in Florida last week, Romney could end up taking both states in a walk.
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That tells you right there the poll is an outlier. Gingrich scored zero while Paul and Santorum are tied? Santorum would never tie with Paul among that age group. Doesn't make any sense. Let's hope there's not zero young people who have any sense.
“Kagan and Sotomayor will appreciate the two new picks on the SC your contribution will make.”
As I posted elsewhere today:
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Here is another analogy. A choice is to be made between two men:
One is Ernst Julius Röhm, head of the Sturmabteilung, or ‘Brownshirts’. He is a Nazi. He is a personally brutish, squalid and morally depraved street thug. He is a drug abuser and a sexual predator and pervert. He is a chaotic train wreck.
The other is Heinrich Luitpold Himmler, leader of the Schutzstaffel, or SS. Like Röhm, Himmler is a Nazi. Unlike Röhm, Himmler is self controlled. In his personal life Himmler is a teetotaler, a non-smoker, and he is a family man, faithful to his wife and loving towards his daughter. In his professional life Himmler is orderly, diligent, detail oriented and punctilious. He is an effective and honest administrator.
Which is the ‘better’ man? Which would you vote for, as between the two? In the event, Hitler opted for Himmler on the Night of the Long Knives. Indeed, for his purposes Himmler was the better man.
But say the choice was yours. Which of the men would you advance, if the power was held in your hands? How could you advance either one without aiding and abetting evil?
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Romney and Obama have proven, demonstrable track records.
1) Both are responsible for entrenching and enabling abortion at will, and doubtless having effected more of them through their policies, Romney by making it cheaper with money taken in taxes from the general population, and Obama by holding the line as long as he could for post birth infanticide.
2) Both are contemptuous of the Second Amendment rights of Americans, which is to say the natural right of all persons to self defense.
3) Both are willing to compel government ‘health care’, which by definition can rightly be called ‘health control’. This is not the State in one’s bedroom, this is the State in one’s very medicine cabinet and ultimately veins - or not. It is, after all, not the individual’s decision anymore.
4) Both are economic predators, as seen by their embrace not only of the TARP legislation, but the whole ideology behind TARP. There is a distinction in that Romney is corporatist, and Obama is a syndicalist, but that is as significant as whether one is eaten by hyenas or by jackals.
5) Both have repeatedly demonstrated their commitment to advancing homosexual copulatory arrangements and dignifying those liaisons with the name ‘marriage’.
6) Both are brazen deceivers, who have never admitted error, fault, or guilt as far as I know.
I regard neither Romney nor Obama as ‘lesser evils’. Both of these sociopaths are such great evils that I cannot push either one to greater power and influence. I will reject and oppose each of these demonstrably vile men with every fiber of my being. I will not participate in this game.
Insider/advantage is one of the more recent accurate polling
Yes, I'm talking to you if you're a Santorum or Perry supporter. And yes, I'm calling you stupid.
Anyone saying “let the process play out” is simply naive. The “process” is do or die in South Carolina. Gingrich must win SC and Florida. But all these people wanting to “vote for their guy” are going to give us Romney and Obama. It's that simple. To believe otherwise is naive at best, ignorant (despite the number of times it has been discussed on FR — so it's willful ignorance), and it is so selfish I can't believe it. Throwing our Country under the bus again just so you can be stubborn and “vote for your guy” — you're going to deserve everything that comes down the pike in the next 5 years.
Vote for the one not-Romney who can WIN. That is NOT Santorum and it's NOT Perry. It's GINGRICH.
Santorum + Newt + Perry > Romney
Santorum AND Newt AND Perry = Romney win
That’s the math Romney is counting on. And it looks like we’re going to give it to him.
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The two with class and love for country that exceeds pride and love for self will drop out.
Sarah Palin-It's Time To Endorse Newt, Etc.
Should be pretty interesting around here come November.
And so it goes, on and on, forever taking our eyes off the real prize. Sigh.
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Wolfstar, what’s the “real prize”? -:)
When was the poll taken?
So far Newt hasn’t placed at the top of anything. Until he does, the others won’t drop out. SC is crucial for Newt, if he doesn’t place well, the others won’t drop out unless they are broke.
They will be falling over each other to vote for Romney.
BINGO!
More likely, Newt scoring 0% with the 18-29 cohort simply means the poll is junk. NOBODY ever scores 0% with any cohort in any poll ever. That's pretty much statistically impossible.
You are probably correct. I do think though that conservatives really need to try to reach young voters on those issues where both conservatives and libertarians are congruent. Smaller government, lower taxes and personal liberty as guiding principles. I think Newt could pry much of Paul’s support away, but it would through those overtures, not through ad hominem attacks (however justified they may or may not be) on Paul.
There isn’t much that can be done with them.
The senerio has been laid out and is not difficult to grasp. They know that this split will result in Mitt, but as long as they can shroud themselves in the idea that they are being principled then they feel no responsibility in the results.
It is the “noble defeat” syndrome. Wont do a lick of good for the rest of us, but they will feel warm inside.
We can only hope S.C. voters turn pollsters on their heads.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. Déjà vu all over again in remembering 2008.
John McCain's service in the Navy was like a demolition driver racing in the Daytona 500. He paid no attention to his studies or training at the Academy, and it showed. And I will always wonder about the REAL story of McCain's actions on the Forrestal that monstrous day - not the whitewashed, son (and grandson) of an Admiral version.
Well, if Newt did mount a 3rd party challenge just imagine the power he would have in October.
He could give the presidency to Romney or deny him the presidency.
Now that’s a LOT of leverage. He could get Romney to commit to anything... just think about how badly Romney wants this.
They could unveil Romney’s commitments and Newt could bow out at the end of the final debate...on live TV, in front of God and everybody.
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