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To: byteback

Yeah, I am with you on the anti-free disposal of property guys. To me each of the so called conservative candidates really have problems and are not very conservative:

1. Newt, sat on the couch with Pelosi showing he has no principles, has been in DC too long thus adopts the language of the DC left like “swiftboating” and of course has never won outside a GA congressional district and then he reveals himself to be anti-capitalism in attacking Romney. Really it amounts to Newt having no firm core.

2. Perry is an ex-Dim and has Dim instincts as the whole forced vaccine of young girls issue showed. And once again his Dim instincts crop up in his anti-capitalist attacks on Romney. How badly do these two guys understand the GOP electorate to think such attacks would work.

3. Santorum is a legislator and the American electorate does not often elect legislators President. One reason is they have also of bad votes like for giving prisoners voting rights.

4. Bachmann who seemed to be a real conservative, but again no experience running anywhere outside on congressional district in Minnesota and a legislator.

So I always look for what governors or ex-govenors are running, ie the people with executive experience. That Pawlenty dropped out so quickly was a mistake and narrowed our choices. That Palin never got in meant we would not likely get a conservative this time around. After Palin did not get in our governors and ex-govenors choices were two moderates in Romney and Huntsman and an ex-Dim in Perry.


71 posted on 01/15/2012 10:27:18 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: JLS
1. Newt, sat on the couch with Pelosi showing he has no principles, has been in DC too long thus adopts the language of the DC left like “swiftboating” and of course has never won outside a GA congressional district and then he reveals himself to be anti-capitalism in attacking Romney. Really it amounts to Newt having no firm core.

Trouble is a "firm core" for many conservatives seem to mean "firmly hating anyone with a D after their name." Newt showed that he could work with Bill Clinton for the good of the country as a whole without compromising his core principles. Obsessing over terms like "swiftboating" is totally asinine, especially since a reporter brought up that term to Newt, Newt didn't bring it up. The nitpicky stuff people like you pin on Newt is absolutely beyond the pale. Your goal is not to achieve conservative goals in the government, your goal is to nitpick people for being "less conservative" than you so you can feel smug and superior.

To say that Newt does not have core principles despite the massive power he had and the extremely conservative things he got passed is just ludicrous. Look at any Republicans in the Congress since the '90s and tell me that they stuck their neck out and went out on a limb for conservatives more than Newt did.

Calling Newt "anti-capitalism" is simply a strawman. He solely criticized Romney's use of government largesse and accounting tricks to make profits on the backs of other people, all of which has been explained in this thread. You need to explain why you believe Romney's business practices show the right kind of leadership we need in the White House. They are the equivalent of someone taking out a mortgage they can't afford and then expecting the government to bail them out and let them stay in their house.

96 posted on 01/15/2012 11:06:57 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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