Mitt Skips The Mormon Moment (the spinning that keeps on spinning)

Buzz Feed ^ | January 13, 2012 | McKay Coppins

[Cincinatus' Wife]

But with the mainstream media coming to his defense, the candidate was content to quietly bask in what Slate's Dave Weigel called to as "a substance heretofore unknown to nature: sympathy for Mitt Romney." When Romney finally did address the situation, he went out of his way not to answer the claims directly. "I just don't believe that that kind of divisiveness based upon religion has a place in this country," he said broadly, calling on Perry to "repudiate" the pastor's remarks.

[Let's back up to that day in question at the Value Voters Summit] ....."Romney's remarks left many in the crowd confused. Who was the speaker who would follow Romney? Some in the crowd didn't know about the Jeffress matter, so they were totally bewildered. Others knew about Jeffress and wondered whether Jeffress would be speaking again. Only a few knew that Romney was talking about Bryan Fischer. And none knew that Romney would have included that line even if Robert Jeffress had never said a word about Mormonism.”……[snip]

Inside Romney controversy at conservative forum (It was about Bryan Fischer not Jeffress)

[Not to mention, Jeffress comments were made later, away from Perry and after Jeffress' introduction--which became the focus, and not Mitt's strange comments earlier intended for Bryan Fischer. But why would Mitt Romney allow his screw-up to go to waste, especially since, due to the failure of the MSM to report events accurately, it was set it up so nicely for him to smear Rick Perry?]

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Oct 14, 2011 -- CBS: “Perry also dismissed criticism of his ties to Pastor Robert Jeffress.

“From the get-go, first time we were asked, we said we did not agree with what that pastor said, and that’s the fact,” Perry said. “Just because someone has endorsed me doesn’t mean I endorse what they say or what they do. And that’s’ the case here and we have said that repeatedly. So I think anyone trying to use this as a political tool just needs to look at the facts.

“We clearly said we didn’t agree with that statement. But on the other side of it, if I have to spend all of my time disassociating myself with what someone says about me - or for that matter if President Obama has to disassociate people who support him with things they say - we are not going to get much time to talk about how create jobs in this country and that is what Americans are interested in.

They are not interested in these side issues and side shows. They are interested in how you are you going to be able to get me, my family to have an environment where we have the dignity to have a job."..Source

[Honorary Serb]

What is “the Mormon Moment”? (Sorry for the leftist source):

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/06/05/mormons-rock.html

[Grunthor]

Well if you are going to adhere to a religion that claims that Jesis and Satan are brothers.;...AND claim that you are a Christian.....there’ll be a few questions.;

[Grunthor]

JesUs...no coffe and typing with a squalling baby in my arms.

[NoRedTape]

Romney will never be President. Besides being a RINO, he’s in a cult. Obama looks all the better compared to Romney, and the MSM and the dims all know it.

[annieokie]

read all about em'

www.mormoncurtain.com

[annieokie]

try this,hope it comes through clickable
www.mormoncurtain.com

[daisy mae for the usa]

There is a BIG difference between discrimination and discernment.

If a values voter takes the time to understand the religious tenets and history of a particular belief framework, and subsequently finds said framework to be lacking, then it is in the voters best interest to apply that understanding to how he/she votes. This is discernment.

Discrimination often operates with no facts at all.

For me, the very fact that Mormons say they don’t today believe and practice the ideas of their founding documents,is for me a big red flag when looking for a President. Our American founding documents are not to be compromised, but I can see that a Mormon has within him/herself the ability to do a 180 degree turn on founding sources if it better suits present conditions.

I am practicing discernment. I would be most happy to know Mitt, be friends with Mitt, etc., but I would always feel unsure about putting the safety of myself and my family in his hands, because I would never know for sure where he would be willing to compromise.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

I am practicing discernment. I would be most happy to know Mitt, be friends with Mitt, etc., but I would always feel unsure about putting the safety of myself and my family in his hands, because I would never know for sure where he would be willing to compromise.

And well you should.

..............."His competitors have attempted to portray Romney's ideological inconsistency over time as a character failure. It hasn't worked, mainly because Romney is a man of exemplary character — deeply loyal to his faith, his family and his country. But he clearly places political ideology in a different category of fidelity. Like Dwight Eisenhower, Romney is a man of vague ideology and deep values. In political matters, he is empirical and pragmatic. He studies problems, assesses risks, calculates likely outcomes. Those expecting Romney to be a philosophic leader will be disappointed. He is a management consultant, and a good one. Romney can make systems work

[svcw]

later

[daisy mae for the usa]

Making systems work is an excellent skill, no doubt! Unfortunately for Romney, the American “system” is based on philosophical ideals, and indeed absolute truths. Millions of lives depend on this understanding. One cannot fully lead America without the ability to integrate the “system operation” with the absolute truths.

No one is perfect, to be sure, but there are degrees of lesser perfection. Each voter must discern how much imperfection he/she is willing to stand behind with a single vote.

I look at it this way. I have $1. dollar left to my name. I am going to give this dollar to the person who can more likely provide me with the best protection for my future and my family’s future. When the dollar’s gone, it’s gone, and I have nothing except the assurances of the person in whom I have trusted.

[Vigilanteman]

The Jeffress' issue was a tempest in a teapot created by the same slimy media that did about as much to sink Perry's chances as the rock with the N-word on it.

The person most responsible for sinking Rick Perry's chances of competing was Rick Perry.

[Tennessee Nana]

The strategy so frustrated his father, George, that he actually interrupted his son once during a press conference to voice offense at what he considered below-the-belt attacks.
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“sonny boy” at age 45 ???

Willie Mitty seems to not have been encouraged to grow up and stand on his own two feet...

Well it shows...

[Cincinatus' Wife]

The person most responsible for sinking Rick Perry's chances of competing was Rick Perry.

Yes. Because believing in states rights and giving power back to the people is not what the establishment will allow.

[SENTINEL]

Romney is not simply a deceived cult member, HE IS A DECEIVING CULT LEADER, IN THE KNOW AND ACTIVELY IN ON THE COVERUP ! This is why this issue matters.

[CatherineofAragon]

“There is a BIG difference between discrimination and discernment.”

Amen to that.

However, I personally would differ from you in that I would not want Romney as a friend, and it has nothing to do with his Mormonism. I see him as an elitist and a complete phony. Months ago, someone posted an article about Romney on a plane, and his cold rebuff to someone who tried to strike up a conversation with him. That, to me, is the true Mitt Romney.

[CatherineofAragon]

Holy cow, am I glad I cancelled GBTV. I have the radio on, and Glenn Beck and his cohorts are pushing Romney like you wouldn’t believe.

[Grunthor]

I heard and I knew all along that Beck and Co. would back the Mormon. Glenn is proving that he is no better than blacks that voted for Obama based upon nothing more than race.

Over 90% of Romneys’ supporters that I have met are mormon hypocrites. They are hypocrites because if you changed Romneys religion to Christian and left everything else about the man the same, NO WAY these people back him!

[Elsie]

It's a place where Mitt Romney's religion faces regular questions from voters, a laboratory for the findings of a new Pew survey in which Mormons said they face more discrimination than African-Americans.

That's just TOO bad!

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"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.

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Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'

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August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)

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1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."

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We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.

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Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).

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When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."

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When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)

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Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

 

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

 

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

 

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