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To: HiTech RedNeck

“In some cases the Amish have been around there far longer than the modern high speed roads and highways that paved over their horse and carriage dirt roads. On the other hand, it is not a Christian thing to put a non biblically mandated lifestyle statement ahead of the welfare of your neighbors. On a third hand (are we growing an octopus?) it seems too little study has been paid to scientifically viable alternatives to those gaudy orange triangles.”

Personally, I don’t give one sh*t about anyone’s particular time frame of religion or outlook on a supreme being. In my 62 years, I have grown so tired of people preaching their god is better than some other god or gods. I especially despise the Islam religion for their centuries old hatred of all other man-made religions, ironically including their own.

I’m an agnostic. Deal with it. You know, the world knows, and history knows nothing more than I do about a god behind this all. Other than some words written in some old books by ill-informed superstitious men who thought the world was flat and the Sun revolved around this rock, NO ONE has one ounce of proof that such a god exists.

Even if it did (which I do believe in divine design), I can’t imagine that the creator of the entire universe has some need to be worshiped. What a petty god that would be. What? He sits in golden clouds outside of our telescopes and awaits humans to beg to him? Sheesh. That is a high-school jock who needs the approval of his peers.

You can also include the astro-physicists. They can do their calculations through their entire lives, but they will never know what is behind the “big bang” theory.
Yeah, I know it’s now got a name - “singularity”. The biggest minds in the world can’t explain why and how that existed, but they had to give it a name just so their Harvard educations and doctorate thesis didn’t go to waste.

Personally, I don’t think what is behind our known universe is within our intellectual capabilities. I have believed all my life that once we reach mental self-awareness and die, that we become part of this magnificent universe, in a way we can’t understand. Read C.S. Lewis and the writer who wrote, “A Conversation With God”.

So let the Amish deal with local ordinances. I have to. So should they. Tough sh*t. Screw theirs’ and other religious beliefs. Let them live within laws for all. If the State deems them wrong, then change them. Just don’t let my wife hit a truck head on while trying to avoid some dumb ass in a horse-drawn carriage.

F*ck him and his stupid beard and silly beliefs. Same for Christians, Jews, Buddas, Hindus, (although I like their peace beliefs...not so much for Islamists). Too bad DHS, arrest me for saying that.

Rights stop where it endangers or infringes on other peoples’ rights. That is what Madison, Randolf, Rutledge, and others tried to say back in 1787 at the Constitutional Convention. May be a State issue, but the principles are the same.


30 posted on 01/13/2012 12:47:22 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet
...tough sh*t. Screw theirs’ and other religious beliefs...

Classy. Hey Navy Vet - shut up now, before your personal bigotry damages the reputation of far better vets than you.

35 posted on 01/13/2012 1:02:22 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: A Navy Vet
written in some old books by ill-informed superstitious men who thought the world was flat and the Sun revolved around this rock

I don't remember reading those verses. In fact the opposite is true. However there was a church that misinterpreted and imprisoned Galileo for advocating heliocentricity and that may be where the misconception is.

40 posted on 01/13/2012 2:05:54 AM PST by BipolarBob (I don't mind you shooting at me, Frank, but take it easy on the Bacardi!)
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To: A Navy Vet

You quite blew away any consideration that this long extant, law abiding people group was overrun, by turning this into a strawman about their religion. How would you like if Islam overran you?


67 posted on 01/13/2012 8:01:13 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: A Navy Vet
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I'm mostly sympathetic to your rant. I also agree with the poster/s that brought up scripture to point out the questionable theology of the Amish. (render unto Caesar etc...) I have to say however, the constitution is right there in black and white. I don't care how many activist lawyers and judges try to interpret what it says. You want to force Amish to put triangles or lights on their buggies, amend the constitution.
80 posted on 01/15/2012 2:44:30 PM PST by Tailback
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