[JohnBrowdie]

forget seceding from the union. the other states should get together and expel california.

I grieve for my birth state.

[manc]

just said on another thread I was reading before this one.

The north east and the west coast are like another country compared to us down here in the south and the midwest and to be honest I would not be bothered if the west coast and the north east just went on their merry way and let us live as we have for hundreds of years.

I guarantee that in 20 years their new liberal utopia country would be all messed up and those liberals who set their new country up would be wanting to be moving back down here again.