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King of Bain
Winning our Future ^ | 11 January 2012

Posted on 01/12/2012 2:54:18 AM PST by John Valentine

http://www.kingofbain.com/


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: capitalism; corporatism; romney
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To: McGavin999
Ok, so you want to outlaw bailouts before they were bailouts, that is one, and two is bailouts after the bailouts would be number two. So what is number three? Do we also want to closed down the PBGC and demand all payouts back??? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pension_Benefit_Guaranty_Corporation
141 posted on 01/12/2012 9:36:48 AM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newt's, Perry's and Willard's positions on Amnesty.)
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To: McGavin999
If a person takes advantage of existing law, has he broken the law? If you do not like these loan programs close them down. Now what other rules and regulation do you want changed or added to control the dirt bag one percent.
142 posted on 01/12/2012 10:02:04 AM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newt's, Perry's and Willard's positions on Amnesty.)
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To: org.whodat
Man I wish we had those emoticons with the little guy in tennis shes rolling on the floor laughing. Your post to me is just perfect to have that as a response.

It's legal, so it's OK to rape the taxpayer. Right, I got it.

143 posted on 01/12/2012 10:08:05 AM PST by McGavin999 ("If you'll have my back when I go to Washington, I'll have yours" Rick Perry 2012)
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To: McGavin999
Rape the taxpayer, yes I saw that on one of the occupy signs, was that you???? Make those evil retirement fund investors give their money back, that would be a good second sign for you.
144 posted on 01/12/2012 12:40:55 PM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newt's, Perry's and Willard's positions on Amnesty.)
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To: John Valentine

Actually, I don’t care for Willard at all but the video is nothing more than propaganda.


145 posted on 01/12/2012 2:32:05 PM PST by Bob Buchholz
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To: DJ MacWoW
You do realize that Mitt Romney was not working for Bain Capital when that steel mill closed, right?

Yes he was.

Let's review, shall we?
1999 - Romney resigns from Bain Capital to become CEO of Salt Lake City Games, February 1999

2001 - GST Steel Plant Closes, Feb 2001

So who's lying now? I don't blame you for not wanting me to post to you any more since it will only show how utterly wrong you are. Support the lies at your own peril. Asinine attacks such as this will only increase Mitt's support.

146 posted on 01/12/2012 5:25:22 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Hoodat
So who's lying now?

The SEC documents in King of Bain?

You keep trying though. You may actually have to research something.

Have a nice evening! :-)

147 posted on 01/12/2012 5:33:35 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: John Valentine
Raytheon was a straw buyer for Bain. I guess you haven’t been able to figure that out.

Making it up as you go, I see. The idiocy of your claim defies logic. Raytheon purchased the Unimac in 1994. They didn't sell it to Bain until 1998. The video gives the false impression that it was Bain who implemented the poor management decisions in 1994 when in reality they had nothing to do with it.

Telling lies about Mitt Romney (or anyone for that matter) does not help the conservative cause one bit. Playing the class envy card doesn't help either. I expect this type of behavior from the Democrats, but it sickens me to see so-called 'conservatives' employing it here on FR.

148 posted on 01/12/2012 5:35:55 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

From my post, is there some point of fact that you take issue with? Or are you one of those types who run solely on emotion and are unable to analyze the truthfulness of claims made in a propaganda film? Romney was not working for Bain Capital when the KST Steel plant closed. It’s sad really that your emotional makeup does not permit you to accept that simple truth.


149 posted on 01/12/2012 5:42:12 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: true believer forever; onyx
Thank you for providing that link from Forbes. I have been asking for a link to that '$30 million / $180 million' story for days now. You are the first person I have seen that actually posted one.

Unfortunately, it is woefully deficient in details. The op-ed starts off with this:

First, is just one tale of a Bain deal under Romney. Bain invested just $30 million to take over a company. It then arranged for this company to pay Bain and its investors a special dividend of $180 million– or six times the amount of equity capital Bain invested to take control.

Do you know what this deal was or which company it involved? There is no way I can ascertain the veracity of this claim without these most basic of details. I'm simply trying to get to the truth here. Thanks.

150 posted on 01/12/2012 5:54:21 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: McGavin999
I lost a tremendous amount of respect for Rush after he defended this as capitalisam at it's finest.

ditto

151 posted on 01/12/2012 5:57:41 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Having watched the video, It seems typical occupy walstreet type of spin. Business is about profit, this video only works in FAVOR of Romney. If Bain took over GM we would not have so many Chevy Volt (aka Chevy Obama) jokes. The point missed is these companies were dead companies walking long before bain.

Ditto. I am going to be so pissed off if Romney wins the nomination because of this asinine video. People are going to see this and find out how bogus the charges are, and end up supporting Mitt because of it. Idiots.

152 posted on 01/12/2012 6:00:18 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Hoodat

Hoodat, I confess that i am wrong on this point. However I am continuing to research this situation as I am not sure that I am ENTIRELY wrong.


153 posted on 01/12/2012 6:00:47 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Romney was never electable. He won ONE election and screwed up Massachusetts so bad that he didn’t run for a second term. He’s a proven loser. I’m stunned when I see posters claim he’s the most “electable” as we know better.

That I can accept. I just don't get why you screw that train of thought up by embracing the lies in that video. Let's keep the focus on Mitt's record as governor instead of telling lies about the one positive that Mitt has going for him.

154 posted on 01/12/2012 6:05:58 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Saundra Duffy

You need to see it to understand what Romney has done!

Watch the 28 min. version, If it doesn’t get your attention vote at will!


155 posted on 01/12/2012 6:06:13 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Todd Palin gets my vote for toughest first dude ever!)
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To: Bob Buchholz

That propaganda has IEDS inbedded through out!

Dismiss it at your own peril.


156 posted on 01/12/2012 6:10:05 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Todd Palin gets my vote for toughest first dude ever!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You keep trying though. You may actually have to research something.

Do the SEC documents show that Romney was working for Bain Capital in 2001? Didn't think so. Unlike you, I actually did research it. Did you notice the links? I have yet to see yours.

157 posted on 01/12/2012 6:11:06 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Hoodat
Yep, that's what they said about Goebbels' movies, too.

Powerful is not the same as truthful.

When I see a video made in the manner in which that one is made, I automatically assume it's false — that the author, if he had the facts, would not need to fill his video with shots of broken-down victims, shuttered factories, and obviously out of context quotes from the target. But I am not the sheeple.

True or not, if the video keeps Mittens from being the nominee, that will be a Good Thing.

158 posted on 01/12/2012 6:15:42 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: John Valentine

Thank you for that admission. I would be interested in learning what you find. Unimac was privately owned until they sold out to Raytheon in 1994. I don’t know what price they paid for it. Raytheon sold Unimac, Speedqueen, and Huebsche to Bain Capital for $358 million in 1998.


159 posted on 01/12/2012 6:25:30 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: cynwoody
True or not, if the video keeps Mittens from being the nominee, that will be a Good Thing.

Sorry, I don't embrace that 'the ends justify the means' philosophy of the left. We can easily keep Mittens from being the nominee without having to lie.

160 posted on 01/12/2012 6:28:08 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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