King of Bain

Winning our Future ^ | 11 January 2012

[org.whodat]

Ok, so you want to outlaw bailouts before they were bailouts, that is one, and two is bailouts after the bailouts would be number two. So what is number three? Do we also want to closed down the PBGC and demand all payouts back??? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pension_Benefit_Guaranty_Corporation

[org.whodat]

If a person takes advantage of existing law, has he broken the law? If you do not like these loan programs close them down. Now what other rules and regulation do you want changed or added to control the dirt bag one percent.

[McGavin999]

Man I wish we had those emoticons with the little guy in tennis shes rolling on the floor laughing. Your post to me is just perfect to have that as a response.

It's legal, so it's OK to rape the taxpayer. Right, I got it.

[org.whodat]

Rape the taxpayer, yes I saw that on one of the occupy signs, was that you???? Make those evil retirement fund investors give their money back, that would be a good second sign for you.

[Bob Buchholz]

Actually, I don’t care for Willard at all but the video is nothing more than propaganda.

[Hoodat]

You do realize that Mitt Romney was not working for Bain Capital when that steel mill closed, right?

Yes he was.

Let's review, shall we?
1999 - Romney resigns from Bain Capital to become CEO of Salt Lake City Games, February 1999

2001 - GST Steel Plant Closes, Feb 2001

So who's lying now? I don't blame you for not wanting me to post to you any more since it will only show how utterly wrong you are. Support the lies at your own peril. Asinine attacks such as this will only increase Mitt's support.

[DJ MacWoW]

So who's lying now?

The SEC documents in King of Bain?

You keep trying though. You may actually have to research something.

Have a nice evening! :-)

[Hoodat]

Raytheon was a straw buyer for Bain. I guess you haven’t been able to figure that out.

Making it up as you go, I see. The idiocy of your claim defies logic. Raytheon purchased the Unimac in 1994. They didn't sell it to Bain until 1998. The video gives the false impression that it was Bain who implemented the poor management decisions in 1994 when in reality they had nothing to do with it.

Telling lies about Mitt Romney (or anyone for that matter) does not help the conservative cause one bit. Playing the class envy card doesn't help either. I expect this type of behavior from the Democrats, but it sickens me to see so-called 'conservatives' employing it here on FR.

[Hoodat]

From my post, is there some point of fact that you take issue with? Or are you one of those types who run solely on emotion and are unable to analyze the truthfulness of claims made in a propaganda film? Romney was not working for Bain Capital when the KST Steel plant closed. It’s sad really that your emotional makeup does not permit you to accept that simple truth.

[Hoodat]

Thank you for providing that link from Forbes. I have been asking for a link to that '$30 million / $180 million' story for days now. You are the first person I have seen that actually posted one.

Unfortunately, it is woefully deficient in details. The op-ed starts off with this:

First, is just one tale of a Bain deal under Romney. Bain invested just $30 million to take over a company. It then arranged for this company to pay Bain and its investors a special dividend of $180 million– or six times the amount of equity capital Bain invested to take control.

Do you know what this deal was or which company it involved? There is no way I can ascertain the veracity of this claim without these most basic of details. I'm simply trying to get to the truth here. Thanks.

[lonestar]

I lost a tremendous amount of respect for Rush after he defended this as capitalisam at it's finest.

ditto

[Hoodat]

Having watched the video, It seems typical occupy walstreet type of spin. Business is about profit, this video only works in FAVOR of Romney. If Bain took over GM we would not have so many Chevy Volt (aka Chevy Obama) jokes. The point missed is these companies were dead companies walking long before bain.

Ditto. I am going to be so pissed off if Romney wins the nomination because of this asinine video. People are going to see this and find out how bogus the charges are, and end up supporting Mitt because of it. Idiots.

[John Valentine]

Hoodat, I confess that i am wrong on this point. However I am continuing to research this situation as I am not sure that I am ENTIRELY wrong.

[Hoodat]

Romney was never electable. He won ONE election and screwed up Massachusetts so bad that he didn’t run for a second term. He’s a proven loser. I’m stunned when I see posters claim he’s the most “electable” as we know better.

That I can accept. I just don't get why you screw that train of thought up by embracing the lies in that video. Let's keep the focus on Mitt's record as governor instead of telling lies about the one positive that Mitt has going for him.

[Randy Larsen]

You need to see it to understand what Romney has done!

Watch the 28 min. version, If it doesn’t get your attention vote at will!

[Randy Larsen]

That propaganda has IEDS inbedded through out!

Dismiss it at your own peril.

[Hoodat]

You keep trying though. You may actually have to research something.

Do the SEC documents show that Romney was working for Bain Capital in 2001? Didn't think so. Unlike you, I actually did research it. Did you notice the links? I have yet to see yours.

[cynwoody]

Yep, that's what they said about Goebbels' movies, too.

Powerful is not the same as truthful.

When I see a video made in the manner in which that one is made, I automatically assume it's false — that the author, if he had the facts, would not need to fill his video with shots of broken-down victims, shuttered factories, and obviously out of context quotes from the target. But I am not the sheeple.

True or not, if the video keeps Mittens from being the nominee, that will be a Good Thing.

[Hoodat]

Thank you for that admission. I would be interested in learning what you find. Unimac was privately owned until they sold out to Raytheon in 1994. I don’t know what price they paid for it. Raytheon sold Unimac, Speedqueen, and Huebsche to Bain Capital for $358 million in 1998.

[Hoodat]

True or not, if the video keeps Mittens from being the nominee, that will be a Good Thing.

Sorry, I don't embrace that 'the ends justify the means' philosophy of the left. We can easily keep Mittens from being the nominee without having to lie.