Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Snoopers-868th

Putting aside for the moment the glaring defects in the birth certificates (or rather Certificate of Live Birth) that have been presented to the public, I accept the claim that BHO was born in Hawaii. That makes him a US Citizen.

So, don’t call me a “birther”.

However, BHO in his autobiography stated that his father was Kenyan. that makes him a person who is NOT “natural born”, because one of his parents was not a citizen when he was born here.

see:
Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), wherein it was held:

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 168.

see also:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2012/01/07/the-mccreery-v-somerville-funeral-maskell-and-gray-to-attend-minor-v-happersett-to-preside/

As far as I am concerned, the federal judiciary has shown themselves to be pitiful careerists. Every single one who has heard any of the many POTUS eligibility suits has moved heaven and earth to keep such litigation from proceeding to discovery where third parties could be compelled to produce documents relating to BHO’s status.

I for one would like to know more about BHO’s trip to Pakistan when he was about 20 years old. There are several good questions about that trip that relate exactly to the question of just who exactly BHO really is:

Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.

Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.

1) He traveled with a U.S. ... Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

We can see how corrupt our government and major institutions are (media and colleges who hold BHO records), by the large number of people who do not want to come forth with the facts as they know them. In fact, by the large number of people who are willing to spend millions to suppress these facts.


36 posted on 01/08/2012 4:22:57 PM PST by theBuckwheat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: theBuckwheat
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

I'm afraid that is not actually true. There was a travel advisory for Pakistan then but travel was not prohibited.

59 posted on 01/08/2012 4:41:38 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies ]

To: theBuckwheat
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

False.

There was a travel advisory recommending against it, but never an outright ban.

BTW, in that time-frame it was a popular activity for young muslim men to go to POKeestan, slip across the border and spend their summer vacations in jihad against the soviets in Afghanistan...

98 posted on 01/08/2012 5:29:35 PM PST by null and void (Day 1083 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies ]

To: theBuckwheat
"Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?"

" A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

Double check...this is not accurate. Pakistan was on the warning (recommending against travel) list, not the "no travel" list.

115 posted on 01/08/2012 5:46:09 PM PST by cookcounty (Newt 2012: ---> Because he got it DONE.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies ]

To: theBuckwheat
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981? A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

J'acusse!

You do not belong on FreeRepublic. It is simply not possible to be interested in this issue and not know, by now, that this is false. There is only one reason for posting disinformation here. Please go back to du.com where you belong, and leave us alone.

ML/NJ

147 posted on 01/08/2012 6:41:49 PM PST by ml/nj
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies ]

To: theBuckwheat
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981? A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981. Once again, this is completely and totally false.
150 posted on 01/08/2012 6:59:47 PM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies ]

To: theBuckwheat
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981? A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

Once again, this is completely and totally false.

151 posted on 01/08/2012 7:00:27 PM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies ]

To: theBuckwheat
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?

No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. StatI? Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

----------------------------------------------------

That simply isn't so. The State Department issued travel advisories warning people about the dangers of travel to Pakistan during that period (the US Embassy in Islamabad had been attacked by radicals in 1979), but there was never a ban on Americans travelling to Pakistan.

I personally traveled to Pakistan several times during that period on my diplomatic passport, but there were plenty of non-diplomat, private Americans traveling to the country, e.g., teachers at the American school, businessmen, etc.

And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.

231 posted on 01/09/2012 7:47:28 AM PST by kabar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson