[JoeFromSidney]

I concluded years ago that “Having to put on shoes to get to the ice machine” is about as ‘roughing it’ as I care to get....

We bought our first RV because my wife said, when we took the kids "camping," she wanted "instant luxury." I've been tent camping, and while it can be fun, putting up a tent in the rain isn't my idea of a vacation.

[Ax]

The last time I roughed it was a few days in a mountain-top Special Forces camp on Nui Ba Den, near the Cambodian border. That's been over 40 years. Jury-rigged latrine, "sleeping" in a commo van? Color me wuss.

I've never been to OZ but from what I've seen on TV, there are just too many bugs and snakes and other lethal creatures out there for me, and I've spent a whole lot of years in the tropics.