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To: BobL

Perry hasn’t been relevant to this nomination process since that debate gaffe on Nov 9.

Really, he started falling fast after his heartless comment on immigration on Sep 22, that was quickly followed by Cain’s shock win of the FL straw poll and subsequent rise in the polls.

Perry hasn’t led nationally or in any state since the end of September. He hasn’t really even been close or competitive nationally or in any state since then as well, and definitely since the debate meltdown in early November.

If you look at polls in big states like CA, FL, NY, PA, IL, etc... he’s at 1-2%. He’ll be lucky to top 1% in NH on tuesday.

I have no idea why he’s sticking around to SC, but he’ll be out after that.

That Iraq return though may have been one of the dumbest debate things I’ve seen.

Disagree that he lost becuase of the Bush 2.0 thing, though. He lost a)because he insulted conservatives on immigration and came off as soft on it and b)because especially with that debate moment people just don’t think he’s up to the job.


1,593 posted on 01/07/2012 9:17:30 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25

Didn’t he say if the Iraq people wanted us? I thought it was to help them stay free and not have all our efforts go for naught, a security force not an invasion.

But what’s the use, people don’t want explanations anymore. First words out of your mouth are it, no further elaboration necessary. Not just for Perry either, done the same thing with Newt and Santorum.

Well I have a news flash, Romney may never say anything that could be misinterpreted or require any clarification but he also never says anything he means. And that’s who we’re going to end up with.


1,600 posted on 01/07/2012 9:22:57 PM PST by Kenny
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To: jeltz25

“Perry hasn’t been relevant to this nomination process since that debate gaffe on Nov 9.”

Yea, I know, but I want him out once and for all, so I keep at it. To me, he’s kind of like a tumor - you zap it, think it’s gone, and it starts to grow back. After Iowa, when he was going to ‘re-assess’ I thought it was over...but no, he gets the call from Romney to stay in - in exchange for something (maybe VP, maybe Energy Secretary), and he’s talked into staying in (well, who knows, maybe Anita talked him into staying - but Romney has the most to gain, by far).


1,621 posted on 01/07/2012 9:40:05 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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